Split journey on an Oyster card

moonrakerz

Can any one give a definitive answer on this one please ? Cannot find the answer on the TfL website.

I wish to make a journey from A to C, via B, paying on my Oyster card..
A to B is on the Overground; B to C is by tube. The Overground station and tube station at B are about 50 yards apart and you have to walk down the High St to get from one to the other. (But both have the same name)
To get out of the Overground station I have to "scan" my Oyster card to get through the barriers - and again, to get into the tube station. The result is that my single journey then counts as two journeys.

In all other similar cases that I have come across the two types of transportation are in the same ticket area ("airside", so to speak) so the problem doesn't arise. (Waterloo to Custom House for example, change from tube to DLR at Canning Town - no problem)

Is this the way the system "works", in this odd case ? or is there some way that I can get the system to recognise that I am actually only making one journey.

wealdroam

moonrakerz wrote: »

Can any one give a definitive answer on this one please ? Cannot find the answer on the TfL website.

I wish to make a journey from A to C, via B, paying on my Oyster card..
A to B is on the Overground; B to C is by tube. The Overground station and tube station at B are about 50 yards apart and you have to walk down the High St to get from one to the other. (But both have the same name)
To get out of the Overground station I have to "scan" my Oyster card to get through the barriers - and again, to get into the tube station. The result is that my single journey then counts as two journeys.

In all other similar cases that I have come across the two types of transportation are in the same ticket area ("airside", so to speak) so the problem doesn't arise. (Waterloo to Custom House for example, change from tube to DLR at Canning Town - no problem)

Is this the way the system "works", in this odd case ? or is there some way that I can get the system to recognise that I am actually only making one journey.

Yes, that's the way it works.
Just use your Oyster card to get out of one station and into the other as you usually would.
As long as you don't take an exceptionally long time 'between stations', the system will join them as one journey.

Edited to add:
It's called an Out of Station Interchange.

For further details see this unofficial website.
There you will find the time you are allowed for your OSI.
As well as lots of other useful stuff.

moonrakerz

Thanks for that - question totally answered !

That link you gave is very useful, have saved that. Oyster is obviously a bit more intelligent than I gave it credit for

macman

And the daily usage is capped at the price of a one day Travelcard anyway-so after a certain number of journeys, or distance, in one day, you'll pay no more.

island2

The only risk is OSIs sometimes result in your journey exceeding the maximum journey time (which may be as little as 70 minutes) resulting in a surcharge of up to £13.

moonrakerz

island2 wrote: »

The only risk is OSIs sometimes result in your journey exceeding the maximum journey time (which may be as little as 70 minutes) resulting in a surcharge of up to £13.

I've got 120 mins - could stop for a meal on the way

According to the Oyster website this only applies to PAYG and the total max charge is the standard "penalty" fare of £7.40.

Simon11

Between exiting B and Entering C you have 15minutes to make that journey, for it to be counted as a full complete journey.

If your travelling time is over 2 hours, it will assume that you haven't tapped out/in and therefore be charged at the full daily rate. To claim back, just call up the Oyster Helpline.

jackieblack

I find this Oystercard business extremely confusing:o. I imagine if you live/work in London and have been 'in' the system from the start and are using it regularly, it is probably fine.

I don't come up to London very often, and to be honest this Oystercard business puts me off. I have spent hours studying the website yet can still never find the information I need to plan, for example, a weekend visit. We usually end up going elsewhere.

Not expecting anyone to have the answers btw, just wanted to vent

wealdroam

Simon11 wrote: »

Between exiting B and Entering C you have 15minutes to make that journey, for it to be counted as a full complete journey.

Sorry, I don't understand how you know that.

Do you know what stations 'B' and 'C' represent?

Without that information it is impossible to say with any certainty just how long anyone has to complete an out of station interchange.

Have a look at the table on that webpage I linked to in the second post.
You will see that there are times ranging from 10 minutes to 40 minutes to complete the interchange.

Jeff_Bridges_hair

jackieblack wrote: »

I find this Oystercard business extremely confusing:o. I imagine if you live/work in London and have been 'in' the system from the start and are using it regularly, it is probably fine.

I don't come up to London very often, and to be honest this Oystercard business puts me off. I have spent hours studying the website yet can still never find the information I need to plan, for example, a weekend visit. We usually end up going elsewhere.

Not expecting anyone to have the answers btw, just wanted to vent

Whilst it can be confusing if you want to know everything abotu the complexities of the oyster but basically just make sure you touch in and out at the start and end of every journey and you will be fine. Its actually really quite simple and if people like yourself are going to be visiting then its capped at the cost of a travelcard for the day anyway so just make sure you have enough on the card to cover this and you will be fine.

jackieblack

Jeff_Bridges_hair wrote: »

Whilst it can be confusing if you want to know everything abotu the complexities of the oyster but basically just make sure you touch in and out at the start and end of every journey and you will be fine. Its actually really quite simple and if people like yourself are going to be visiting then its capped at the cost of a travelcard for the day anyway so just make sure you have enough on the card to cover this and you will be fine.

It's the whole business of how you actually obtain an Oystercard in the first place and all the fees that entails. Also, as a family I'd assume we have to have an Oystercard each, all the fees/set-up/activation costs make it quite expensive for, for example, a weekend visit. (Day trips are fine, we just get a travelcard with our train ticket.)