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Buying Shares Low?

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  • hallmark
    hallmark Posts: 1,480 Forumite
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    Historically low P/E across the market as a whole is a reasonable indicator of when prices are low.
  • gozomark
    gozomark Posts: 2,069 Forumite
    hallmark wrote: »
    Historically low P/E across the market as a whole is a reasonable indicator of when prices are low.

    correct - however, there is historic or prospective P/E - you also have to consider where in the earnings cycle we are, for example if you are analysing one country, you need to look at total profits as a % of GDP - this tends to be stable over time, but with big peaks and troughs
  • To use your football analogy, don't forget Preston and Huddersfield used to be the United/City/Chelsea/Arsenal/Liverpool of today.

    Will they EVER be back to that level?

    Everybody says "buy low, sell high" but a better one would be "buy high, sell higher"
  • dqnet
    dqnet Posts: 308 Forumite
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    Just continuing on from this thread, would anyone advise buying shares in BAC..? Thanks!
  • Ark_Welder
    Ark_Welder Posts: 1,878 Forumite
    iron_bored wrote: »
    but a better one would be "buy high, sell higher"

    Which is what was the matra in the 90s/00s technology bubble.

    dqnet wrote: »
    Just continuing on from this thread, would anyone advise buying shares in BAC..? Thanks!

    Bank of America? Or did you mean BARC, i.e. Barclays?
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  • IronWolf
    IronWolf Posts: 6,445 Forumite
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    hallmark wrote: »
    Historically low P/E across the market as a whole is a reasonable indicator of when prices are low.

    Yes but P/E's are often pretty arbitrary in determining value. Some companies will only be worth a P/E of around 5 while other's will be worth over 15 :)
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  • gozomark
    gozomark Posts: 2,069 Forumite
    Ark_Welder wrote: »
    Which is what was the matra in the 90s/00s technology bubble.

    its actually a trading strategy much older than that - check out "reminiscences of a Stock Operator" by Edwin Lefevre, written in the 1920's, and still one of the best books written about trading
  • gozomark
    gozomark Posts: 2,069 Forumite
    IronWolf wrote: »
    Yes but P/E's are often pretty arbitrary in determining value. Some companies will only be worth a P/E of around 5 while other's will be worth over 15 :)

    True, and some companies should be valued relative to assets not earnings, but for a large country the overall P/E relative to its history is more useful than not.
  • JamesU
    JamesU Posts: 1,060 Forumite
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    atush wrote: »
    Buy low, sell high- the holy grail.
    gozomark wrote: »
    there are plenty of others who prefer "buy high, sell higher..."
    atush wrote: »
    Buy high, sell higher is still buy low sell high.
    gozomark wrote: »
    no it isn't.... I'll agree its buy lower, sell higher, but it certainly isn't buy low, sell high...
    gozomark wrote: »
    buy low is about trying to second guess the market, buy high is about following the market - both can work, both can fail, but they are far from the same thing

    Excellent stuff and a good laugh too. Had to bring this together. :D

    JamesU
  • dqnet
    dqnet Posts: 308 Forumite
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    Bank of America.. Since they are low and probably will go up at some point down the years.. what do you think?
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