We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.

This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING: Hello Forumites! In order to help keep the Forum a useful, safe and friendly place for our users, discussions around non-MoneySaving matters are not permitted per the Forum rules. While we understand that mentioning house prices may sometimes be relevant to a user's specific MoneySaving situation, we ask that you please avoid veering into broad, general debates about the market, the economy and politics, as these can unfortunately lead to abusive or hateful behaviour. Threads that are found to have derailed into wider discussions may be removed. Users who repeatedly disregard this may have their Forum account banned. Please also avoid posting personally identifiable information, including links to your own online property listing which may reveal your address. Thank you for your understanding.
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

children signing contracts

2

Comments

  • Yorkie1
    Yorkie1 Posts: 12,263 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    It is not unusual for an adult to sign this. It is unenforceable and therefore useless for an U18 to do so.
  • LandyAndy
    LandyAndy Posts: 26,377 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts
    My cousin's 20 year old daughter, who will be living with her, has been asked to sign something like this for the house she is buying.
  • ash28
    ash28 Posts: 1,789 Forumite
    Mortgage-free Glee! Debt-free and Proud!
    We've recently sold a house and were asked for the names of anyone over the age of 18 currently living at the house.
  • G_M
    G_M Posts: 51,977 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    LandyAndy wrote: »
    My cousin's 20 year old daughter, who will be living with her, has been asked to sign something like this for the house she is buying.
    And this is relevant to the discussion because.........?

    It's not the relationship that matters, it's the age.
  • theartfullodger
    theartfullodger Posts: 15,796 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    edited 5 October 2011 at 7:58PM
    Just in case OP (=clare_bear... I'd best not comment on name...) is in God's ain countree (Scotland..), there younger humans can sign contracts...
  • elsien
    elsien Posts: 36,584 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    I can't comment on the age aspect of this, but when I had to sign something similar, I had to take independent legal advice first to show I understood and wasn't being pressured into anything.
    All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well.

    Pedant alert - it's could have, not could of.
  • krispy444
    krispy444 Posts: 94 Forumite
    If you are having a mortgage the 17 year old will need to sign an Occupiers Consent Form which basically means that if you default on your mortgage and the lender takes proceedings it means that the 17 year old has no rights in the property and the lender will be able to get them out. The 17 year old should be advised to take independent legal advice about the form before signing it. They should not be signing it at the Solicitors that are acting for you (as they are acting for you and the lender and cannot give advice on it) it should be sent out to the 17 year old with advice that they take independent legal advice. Hope this helps
  • kingstreet
    kingstreet Posts: 39,349 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    A mortgage application asks if anyone asked over 17 who isn't party to the mortgage application will be living in the property. This triggers the issue of a Consent to Mortgage form which is required in these circumstances.

    The person is then bound by the terms of the mortgage deed and agrees to abide by them should the property be repossessed. If the lender doesn't obtain such agreement, on repossession an (IIRC) implied tenancy can be created which means the individual could claim the right to stay in the property.

    The individual is advised to seek independent legal advice, separate from that of the mortgage applicants, and the form may need to be witnessed. A similar thread was posted here a few days ago.

    I can't answer why 17 was chosen for this purpose, but it has been like that certainly for over 25 years, probably longer. Mr Webster may be able to shed some light on it when he's around.

    I've just realised I should have paid more attention to krispy's post as I've just repeated it. Meh.
    I am a mortgage broker. You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a Mortgage Adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice. Please do not send PMs asking for one-to-one-advice, or representation.
  • I've never been completely clear why it is 17 rather than 18 but I assume the point is that they might get to 18 by the time the matter completes so the lender is just being careful!
    RICHARD WEBSTER

    As a retired conveyancing solicitor I believe the information given in the post to be useful assuming any properties concerned are in England/Wales but I accept no liability for it.
  • G_M
    G_M Posts: 51,977 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    I've never been completely clear why it is 17 rather than 18 but I assume the point is that they might get to 18 by the time the matter completes so the lender is just being careful!
    Interesting. But as a point of law would a Minor's signature be legally binding?
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 352.3K Banking & Borrowing
  • 253.6K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 454.3K Spending & Discounts
  • 245.3K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 601.1K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 177.6K Life & Family
  • 259.2K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.7K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.