inspection without my presence can they do this?

Grimbal

propertyman wrote: »

If the tenancy has a clause allowing access for inspections then on notice they ahve a contractual right.

There is also a statutory right to enter on notice to effect a repair.

Changing locks is a breach of your tenancy, they are not yours to change.

You do have the right to refuse entry and then they must obtain a court order to do so, or risk you taking actions against them.

But before you do, can I say this; it is your home but it is not yours; you do have a right to quiet enjoyment and privacy, however you are only using it for a period of time and the landlord has every right to ensure that you are taking care of it so that it returns in good order at the end of the tenancy. A regular inspection on notice is not really a great interference with that is it?

A few simple precautions with valuables and cash and documents and sometimes a quick tidy up is all you need think about ( or hide away the whips and chains )


Otherwise what is is your real objection to allowing this?

I'm not at all sure about this post. As far as I understand things, civil law "outweighs" contractual law. So, anything that is in a contract may not necessarily be enforceable.

johnbusby

propertyman wrote: »

it is your home but it is not yours; you do have a right to quiet enjoyment and privacy, however you are only using it for a period of time and the landlord has every right to ensure that you are taking care of it so that it returns in good order at the end of the tenancy.

But surely the landlord can make sure that you are going to look after the property through the many hoops that tenants are made to jump through prior to the tennancy. Failing that, a months deposit and the court system will allow them to claim back for any damages. Furthermore, it doesn't matter what state the place is in during the tenancy, only that it is returned in the same state than at the start of the tennancy

I think what gets tenants backs up is people dictating when they will enter your home. I have thousands of pounds worth of tech gear (im a bit of geek ) and I would not fancy my chances of claiming off the landlord / agent if I returned to find this damaged...

Tennants pay often extortionate rents so should be allowed to enjoy the property that they are paying for without harassment from agents or landlords

propertyman

Grimbal wrote: »

I'm not at all sure about this post. As far as I understand things, civil law "outweighs" contractual law. So, anything that is in a contract may not necessarily be enforceable.

I dont want to engage in troll like behaviour so I will be kind. Your broad comment shows that your understanding is very limited as is my post that you haven't understood.

Her right is a civil right and that where they conflict and are reconciled against a contractual right and or a statutory right is via court action -either the landlord seeking an order to enter or the tenants claim for breach of quiet enjoyment for harassment, even repudiation.

My user name is propertyman for a reason.....

jjlandlord

propertyman wrote: »

Changing locks is a breach of your tenancy, they are not yours to change.

Only if tenancy agreement says so. Otherwise T is free to change locks.

ifonlyitwaseasier

jjlandlord wrote: »

Only if tenancy agreement says so. Otherwise T is free to change locks.

even if it does, if the tenant has requested that they don't enter without being there, how would the LL/agent find out..... unless they tried, and then you'd have to ask them why they tried to enter without permission

Grimbal

propertyman wrote: »

I dont want to engage in troll like behaviour so I will be kind. Your broad comment shows that your understanding is very limited as is my post that you haven't understood.

Her right is a civil right and that where they conflict and are reconciled against a contractual right and or a statutory right is via court action -either the landlord seeking an order to enter or the tenants claim for breach of quiet enjoyment for harassment, even repudiation.

My user name is propertyman for a reason.....

I stand by my comments, and choose to ignore your rather inflammatory ones.

jjlandlord

ifonlyitwaseasier wrote: »

even if it does, if the tenant has requested that they don't enter without being there, how would the LL/agent find out..... unless they tried, and then you'd have to ask them why they tried to enter without permission

T should always be careful before breaching contract.

ifonlyitwaseasier

and yet i repeat, how will the landlord/agent find out unless they try to enter without permission? and if having been refused permission, they attempt entry, then complain that the locks were changed they'll have shot themselves in the foot,

jjlandlord

ifonlyitwaseasier wrote: »

if having been refused permission, they attempt entry, then complain that the locks were changed they'll have shot themselves in the foot,

I fail to see how...

propertyman

johnbusby wrote: »

But surely the landlord can make sure that you are going to look after the property through the many hoops that tenants are made to jump through prior to the tennancy. Failing that, a months deposit and the court system will allow them to claim back for any damages. Furthermore, it doesn't matter what state the place is in during the tenancy, only that it is returned in the same state than at the start of the tennancy

I think what gets tenants backs up is people dictating when they will enter your home. I have thousands of pounds worth of tech gear (im a bit of geek ) and I would not fancy my chances of claiming off the landlord / agent if I returned to find this damaged...

Tenants pay often extortionate rents so should be allowed to enjoy the property that they are paying for without harassment from agents or landlords

Then you have to read the forum and see how ineffective this procedure is from both sides. One months deposit is noting if their is extensive damage or alterations.

It is not their home they are renting it and periodic inspections are not an interference if they are on notice and provided for in the contract, and infrequent and in duration.

An inspection should take no more than 5 to 15 minutes in the average flat or house and in this case an entire day is unreasonable.

The civil right is there to prevent excesses, the landlord who rifles through possession or calls in and as and when with no notice or reason. A normal quarterly or 6 monthly inspection will in virtually all cases be accepted by a court as a reasonable basis to enter and award it to the landlord.

Unfortunately that is life in rented accommodation the landlord has right to protect their investment and home.