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  • irnbru_2
    irnbru_2 Posts: 1,603 Forumite
    What is dry lining?

    Perhaps they meant external cladding? The Glasgow Housing Association has placed 50mm thick external cladding on most of its properties and then covered it with rendering. Seems to have kept the properties well insulated this winter.

    Dry lining to me means Gyproc :eek:
  • makings
    makings Posts: 7 Forumite
    @Cardew: Er, ok, could have sworn I mentioned the 3 bed detached thing! :rotfl:

    And yes, it is unusual for a 50s house not to have a cavity wall, we're just lucky I guess :(

    Dry lining is definitely on the cards... EDIT: At its most basic, it is putting plasterboard on external walls (with an air space inbetween wall and plasterboard) and "making good" the joins. You can also buy thin(ish) insulation to go between the wall and the plasterboard for extra effect...

    Kind regards,

    Mike K.
  • Curry_Queen
    Curry_Queen Posts: 5,589 Forumite
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    irnbru wrote:
    Perhaps they meant external cladding? The Glasgow Housing Association has placed 50mm thick external cladding on most of its properties and then covered it with rendering. Seems to have kept the properties well insulated this winter.

    Ah yes, I think that's what my house has been insulated with but I don't have a clue what it's called :o

    It certainly does make a difference, so much so that tonight is the first time in almost three weeks that I've had to put my heating on for a couple of hours! ;)
    "An Ye Harm None, Do What Ye Will"
    ~
    It is that what you do, good or bad,
    will come back to you three times as strong!

  • Cardew
    Cardew Posts: 29,063 Forumite
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    Ah yes, I think that's what my house has been insulated with but I don't have a clue what it's called :o

    It certainly does make a difference, so much so that tonight is the first time in almost three weeks that I've had to put my heating on for a couple of hours! ;)

    No it is not the same thing.

    Dry lining is putting battens and Plasterboard on the inside of the walls. i.e. the interior of the outside walls. You can then wallpaper, decorate them etc.

    I had my annex dry lined, about a 2" gap with 2" sheets of insulation in the gap.
  • Curry_Queen
    Curry_Queen Posts: 5,589 Forumite
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    Cardew wrote:
    No it is not the same thing.

    Dry lining is putting battens and Plasterboard on the inside of the walls. i.e. the interior of the outside walls. You can then wallpaper, decorate them etc.

    I had my annex dry lined, about a 2" gap with 2" sheets of insulation in the gap.


    I was talking about external cladding ;)
    "An Ye Harm None, Do What Ye Will"
    ~
    It is that what you do, good or bad,
    will come back to you three times as strong!

  • Cardew
    Cardew Posts: 29,063 Forumite
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    Curry Queen: What is dry lining?
    IrnBru: Perhaps they meant external cladding?
    Curry Queen: Ah yes, I think that's what my house has been insulated with but I don't have a clue what it's called
    Cardew: No it is not the same thing.

    Dry lining is putting battens and Plasterboard on the inside of the walls
    I was talking about external cladding ;)

    It seems to me you asked what dry lining was, and agreed with Irnbru that they meant cladding. I was merely pointing out to readers of this thread that Dry lining is not the same thing as external cladding ;)
  • makings
    makings Posts: 7 Forumite
    @Cardew: Getting a bit off topic here, but do you notice the room "shrinking" a bit when the internal plasterboard goes on?

    Regards,

    Mike K.
  • Curry_Queen
    Curry_Queen Posts: 5,589 Forumite
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    Cardew wrote:
    It seems to me you asked what dry lining was, and agreed with Irnbru that they meant cladding. I was merely pointing out to readers of this thread that Dry lining is not the same thing as external cladding ;)


    Oh dear this is getting rather silly don't you think? :rolleyes:

    Just to clarify ...

    irnbru wrote:
    Perhaps they meant external cladding? The Glasgow Housing Association has placed 50mm thick external cladding on most of its properties and then covered it with rendering. Seems to have kept the properties well insulated this winter.
    Ah yes, I think that's what my house has been insulated with but I don't have a clue what it's called :o

    It certainly does make a difference, so much so that tonight is the first time in almost three weeks that I've had to put my heating on for a couple of hours! ;)


    Yes, I did originally ask what dry lining was and makings responded to me with this answer in the post below irnbru ...
    At its most basic, it is putting plasterboard on external walls (with an air space inbetween wall and plasterboard) and "making good" the joins. You can also buy thin(ish) insulation to go between the wall and the plasterboard for extra effect...

    Between the two of them I was able to ascertain what dry lining was and also learn that the insulation I have on my own house is called external cladding.

    I hope that makes it a little clearer for you :)
    "An Ye Harm None, Do What Ye Will"
    ~
    It is that what you do, good or bad,
    will come back to you three times as strong!

  • Cardew
    Cardew Posts: 29,063 Forumite
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    makings wrote:
    @Cardew: Getting a bit off topic here, but do you notice the room "shrinking" a bit when the internal plasterboard goes on?

    Regards,

    Mike K.

    In my case the annex was derelict. When it was modernised the dry lining was put in, so the rooms have only been used with their current dimensions.

    It will take approx 6” off each dimension in your rooms(3” either side).

    One tip it is very easy to re-site and add power points, TV/phone points, taps, radiators etc before installing the dry lining. The unsightly cables & (lagged)pipes can be hidden behind the plasterboard – so plan ahead(consulting wife on where she feels they should situated of course)
  • Iffy_Wallet
    Iffy_Wallet Posts: 266 Forumite
    Sorry, I'm not a wizz with DIY and home improvement. But this "dry lining" debate seems a little complicated. Is it not easier to have a look at what insulation you have in the roof? Then look at what draughty doors / windows you have? And possibly consider getting some thick curtains and pull these every night, particularly in winter? I have started leaving bedroom curtains shut for most of the day (despite being brought up with the belief that you only do that if someone had died!! ). I have also noticed that the front bedrooms need the curtains opening during the day, as the thermal gain from the afternoon sunshine streaming through can be quite considerable.

    Or am I being too simplistic?

    PS several years ago, I fitted a second trap door to the attic access point, that only had a thin board separating the landing from the roof void. I filled the gap between the two boads with a "pillow" of insulation material. This makes access to the attic a couple of minutes slower, but I'm convinced it makes the house much warmer in winter.
    [ Eat, Drink and be Merry - for tomorrow we get the bill ]
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