Sisters new job - Alarm bells ringing

ianders

Thanks for all the replies and advice.

Thankfully she's seen the light and is listening to me about this. I don't think she'll be going back.
The only thing she will miss out on is 7 hours of pay she's worked so far. I can't see them being accommodating and paying this and as there's no contract or proof that she worked there and I can't see any avenues to get the money.

I have filled out a form on hmrc website about their employment tactics as it does look like they are avoiding running a PAYE scheme as mentioned above.

Might also look into contacting TPS or ICO about the TPS registered phone numbers...

scheming_gypsy

but they wouldn't dock her 'pay', they pay the invoice pro-rata. Although it's third hand wording on what was actually said

Mistral001

What this company is doing is perhaps not correct in so far as they are treating employees as self-employed. But that is up to them and they will have to answer to the tax authorities if they get investigated. However, the OP's sister needs check out whether what the employers says is true regarding not having to pay tax. Is the employer a tax expert? The best policy is to inform the HMRC of this additional income as it could be taxable. In other words it could be what HMRC call a "new taxable activity" in which she must tell them about it. It is explained on the following:

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/about/new-penalties/failure-to-notify.pdf

patman99

Sounds like they (the employer) are in breach of HMRC rule 35.
One good test of the 'you are self-employed' line is to inform the 'employer' that you will be supplying a suitable replacement to cover any time-off you may have due to Hospital appointments etc., if they say you cannot do this, then you are not self-employed.

ILW

Did she get any deals in her 7 hours?

bignred05

agrinnall wrote: »

Calling people who have registered with TPS is at the least very bad practice, I don't know whether it's actually illegal or against any other rules but it sounds like this company knows they are doing wrong and doesn't care.

was reading this thread earlier today, gets home tonight and gets a "funny" phone call

taking into account we have been on the TPS for a number of years, and very rarely get any of these types of calls, (sounds like the kiss of death)

gets home tonight from work checks the phone, we had an unknown number earlier this afternoon, fast forward till about 6.15pm

the phone rings, hello Mr XXXXXXX, I'm ringing from some national plumbing firm etc, anyway straight away I asks why are you calling me etc, as I'm on the TPS and you shouldn't be calling my

next thing the guy said I want to speak to MRS XXXXXX, and I can call you

to which I informed him again we are on the TPS list as a phone number, not as a person, so don't call again

the cheeky git said he would call back to speak to Mrs XXXXX :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

LittleVoice

easy wrote: »

Furthermore, it is illegal to call people who are registered with the TPS.

It is not illegal. Organisations are not required by law to check their lists against the TPS.

System

LittleVoice wrote: »

It is not illegal. Organisations are not required by law to check their lists against the TPS.

They are......

http://www.tpsonline.org.uk/tps/index.html wrote:

. It is a legal requirement that all organisations (including charities, voluntary organisations and political parties) do not make such calls to numbers registered on the TPS unless they have your consent to do so.

LittleVoice

!!!!!! wrote: »

They are......

I stand corrected. Thanks. It's not lawful.