Let's save the country some money.

wotsthat

an9i77 wrote: »

Re the diabetes are you taking the !!!!? Have you any idea just how hard it is to manage type one diabetes, predict insulin needs and inject just the right enough to avoid either a high or low blood sugar? Nope thought not. People like you should be ashamed of yourself. Maybe one day you'll get an illness you didn't ask for, and let's hope the NHS will still take you to the hospital in an ambulance if you need one. Or maybe not, maybe we'd all be better off without the likes of you.

The teenager in question makes little serious attempt to control his diabetes and his parents seem pretty sanguine.

What's the problem with suggesting that people take better care of themselves? I want them to have better lives not worse ones and the taxpayer saves some money too. I can't see a downside.

In the example a serious condition combined with a laissez faire attitude and entitlement issues could be lethal.

Remembering that we are debating on the internet - you must want teenagers to die - how do you sleep at night.

tescobabe69

Loughton_Monkey wrote: »

I agree about the kids.

OK, the population needs to be sustained (but not increased). But just think of the cost to the taxpayer of every child. There's pre-natal. The birth. Post-natal. Normal Health Service throughout life. Child Benefit. Education. Then in some cases there's extra housing, tax credits, unemployment benefit on top.

Give me one reason why the taxpayer should encourage more children than can be afforded by the parents. Do not give a single financial incentive to have children. The savings will be on a scale never seen before.

I think you should consider why your government encourages child production & immigration.
(IMHO)It keeps labour costs down, and provides an underclass for the working class to look down on, and be fearful of joining.

an9i77

wotsthat wrote: »

The teenager in question makes little serious attempt to control his diabetes and his parents seem pretty sanguine.

What's the problem with suggesting that people take better care of themselves? I want them to have better lives not worse ones and the taxpayer saves some money too. I can't see a downside.

In the example a serious condition combined with a laissez faire attitude and entitlement issues could be lethal.

Remembering that we are debating on the internet - you must want teenagers to die - how do you sleep at night.

Ok well I don't know the teenager in question, but that could have been me when I was a teenager - its pretty difficult to be diagnosed with such a 'tricky' condition at that age and a lot of people struggle with it, you will never know how hard it is unless you have it yourself and I am sure you did not mean to offend, but offend you did, so please think before you post such inflammatory comments in future unless you actually do want to upset people.

nearlynew

And while you lot continue arguing about how to save a pound, the silent pick-pocket has nicked a tenner from your wallet.

vivatifosi

I'm willing to pay extra. I dread going into hospital (thankfully no need at present) but would be glad to pay for my own nursing if I can have my own room. DH has been in a hospital that does this. So you get the op on the NHS but pay for private care, thus saving the NHS the nursing costs. You get a nice clean room with a TV, they get an extra bed that's not allocated. It costs about £300 per night. I'd also happily pay £10 to visit the docs.

I also think drunks who pack A&E over weekends should pay for their treatment.

nearlynew

vivatifosi wrote: »

I'm willing to pay extra. I dread going into hospital (thankfully no need at present) but would be glad to pay for my own nursing if I can have my own room. DH has been in a hospital that does this. So you get the op on the NHS but pay for private care, thus saving the NHS the nursing costs. You get a nice clean room with a TV, they get an extra bed that's not allocated. It costs about £300 per night. I'd also happily pay £10 to visit the docs.

I also think drunks who pack A&E over weekends should pay for their treatment.

Wouldn't it be nice if you could go down that route and pay less tax.

vivatifosi

nearlynew wrote: »

Wouldn't it be nice if you could go down that route and pay less tax.

It would be very nice. Unfortunately I can't see it happening. More like they implement these ideas and we pay more tax.

dori2o

vivatifosi wrote: »

I'm willing to pay extra. I dread going into hospital (thankfully no need at present) but would be glad to pay for my own nursing if I can have my own room. DH has been in a hospital that does this. So you get the op on the NHS but pay for private care, thus saving the NHS the nursing costs. You get a nice clean room with a TV, they get an extra bed that's not allocated. It costs about £300 per night. I'd also happily pay £10 to visit the docs.

I also think drunks who pack A&E over weekends should pay for their treatment.

The problem with this is that the ordinary person in the street doesn't have £300 per night to spend. I don't have £300 a month to spend on food and Petrol.

It wouldn't be too bad if Private Healthcare was more openly available, but for someone like me it's a completely pointless exercise as I'm yet to find a HC provider that will accept long term pre existing conditions.

ILW

A fat tax would help raise a few quid and also make the nation healthier saving the NHS a fortune.

dori2o

ILW wrote: »

A fat tax would help raise a few quid and also make the nation healthier saving the NHS a fortune.

Unhealthy food (including fast food) is already taxed via VAT.