work refuses annual leave help

ILW

What is wrong with using the occasional capital letter? Makes things much easier to read.

Mr_K

Just go sick like everybody else does. Put it down as 'stress' from not getting enough leave

DCFC79

That was quite bad to read, can you not add some full stops etc.

browneyedbazzi

KiKi wrote: »

None of these things really matter, though, because the leave hasn't been booked, yet (as far as I can understand from the post!). So the OP has no legal recourse.

All she (he?) can do is ask nicely, say the manager said so, and hope for the best. There is no statutory right to paid leave at the time you want it, and I cannot imagine in a million years that the employer would allow a contractual right to paid leave at the employee's whim (as nice as that would be!).

KiKi

I know that there isn't a legal case, but the answers to the questions could affect how negotiations go....I think a lot will rest on what OP's relationship with the management is like and it doesn't sound good. They may have refused the holiday hoping that OP will leave!

SarEl

I admit - I skimmed the thread having found the OP totally unreadable. But it seems to me it's simple. OP had 3 weeks leave this year in the peak period for people wanting holiday, and wanted to squeeze in there ahread of the crowd to get the best time again. She aither failed and people got ahead of her, or management decided that she had had her share and someone else should get it this time. Either way, tough luck - she was refused the leave she asked for so she will have to think about holidays another time of the year. Not everyone can have July or August.

browneyedbazzi

SarEl wrote: »

I admit - I skimmed the thread having found the OP totally unreadable. But it seems to me it's simple. OP had 3 weeks leave this year in the peak period for people wanting holiday, and wanted to squeeze in there ahread of the crowd to get the best time again. She aither failed and people got ahead of her, or management decided that she had had her share and someone else should get it this time. Either way, tough luck - she was refused the leave she asked for so she will have to think about holidays another time of the year. Not everyone can have July or August.

Well spotted...I missed that point as I had developed a headache trying to decipher the post and must have zoned out by the time I got there.

I do think 'tough luck' about says it. It's not fair for the same people to always get the popular holiday times off and it's rather selfish to try!

Solstice_Twilight

Unfortunately, if your leave wasn't formally approved, you've got no rights at all. My OH has been unable to take even a long weekend since June because his boss was getting married and taking three weeks for a honeymoon and then taking on a new member of staff who needed training in the week he returned - small company (three employees) meant that OH was unable to have any leave and has been fortunate to be able to book a few days off in the first week of October (having been refused the tail end of this week so I could take him away for his birthday ). I wouldn't have minded, except OH is regularly prevented from taking leave so that his boss can go to music festivals, family trips, etc (and has been asked to cancel leave on short notice once as his boss managed to "score tickets" to a gig he really wanted to attend). Unfortunately, as cross as it makes us, there's not much he can do.
We're getting married next April and I know there's not a chance that OH would get permission to take three weeks leave for our honeymoon and we're actually worried that he might get told last minute that he can't go at all, so we've decided to only book a long weekend with plenty of notice and to make it clear that it's our "honeymoon" in the hope that there won't be any problems.

So no, there's not much you can do at all.

Sambucus_Nigra

Hammyman wrote: »

If anyone wants to know why the public sector is in the mess it is in, you just have to look at that completely incomprehensible drivel quoted above. The worst part is that the OP probably has a position where they make decisions that affect people's lives.

I was going to ask whether the OP had submitted the request using the same grammar as above in which case it's no wonder; but I'd probably have got another 'yellow card' so I'll just quote this perfect response instead.

SarEl

Sambucus_Nigra wrote: »

I was going to ask whether the OP had submitted the request using the same grammar as above in which case it's no wonder; but I'd probably have got another 'yellow card' so I'll just quote this perfect response instead.

I don't think that quoting Hammy's private fetish as evidence of anything is all that helpful - for all he knows she's a toilet cleaner. Illiteracy is not the preserve of the public sector.

But I am confident that s/he didn't use this grammar in the annual leave request - otherwise it would have been approved. For December. Which would probably have been what they thought s/he asked for by the time the got to the end of it.

amberspy

update
sorry for bad grammer ,was so stressed out when i wrote it
as im a member for union ,i got in touch with them and has now been sorted and will be on hol as request