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UK Mortgage Lending and House Prices DID NOT cause the credit crunch

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  • “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”



  • Indeed Northern Rock's old mortgage book of all those supposedly sub-prime loans, the so-called "bad bank", remains profitable to this day. It made £300,000,000 profit last year alone.

    .

    Northern Rock Asset Management (NRAM) the so called "bad bank"

    2007 accounts LOST £ 199 million
    2008 accounts LOST £1356 million
    2009 accounts LOST £ 258 million

    It has of course made a profit since - it would be difficult not to as it can borrow very cheaply courtesy of the government, while its poor mortgage holders, a highly unattractive bunch on up to 125% mortgages are stiffed.

    "Remains profitable to this day"

    Same old Hamish, same old b*****ks
    US housing: it's not a bubble - Moneyweek Dec 12, 2005
  • StevieJ
    StevieJ Posts: 20,174 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    geneer wrote: »
    And how old are they?
    That will be the critical thing.


    Theres many a housing estate where young degree carrying professionals are living cheek to jowl with 50 year old taxi drivers an tradesmen. Apparently, there might have been a couple of housing bubbles or something.

    Your slip is showing :)
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • geneer
    geneer Posts: 4,220 Forumite
    Absolutely priceless geneer.....

    A bunch of articles from 2007/2008 warning of a "sub-prime time bomb" in the UK that demonstrably failed to explode.

    You really couldn't make it up!!!:rotfl:

    Unless of course you count the House Price Crash of 2007/2008.

    :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:Lordy. Nice one Hamish.
    You couldn't make it up.
  • robmatic
    robmatic Posts: 1,217 Forumite
    geneer wrote: »

    Theres many a housing estate where young degree carrying professionals are living cheek to jowl with 50 year old taxi drivers an tradesmen. Apparently, there might have been a couple of housing bubbles or something.

    You would think that if there was any fairness taxi drivers, tradesmen and other common oiks would have to live somewhere out of sight.
  • geneer
    geneer Posts: 4,220 Forumite
    robmatic wrote: »
    You would think that if there was any fairness taxi drivers, tradesmen and other common oiks would have to live somewhere out of sight.

    Strawman argument.
    Is that the best you could come up with?
  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    Kennyboy66 wrote: »
    Northern Rock Asset Management (NRAM) the so called "bad bank"

    2007 accounts LOST £ 199 million
    2008 accounts LOST £1356 million
    2009 accounts LOST £ 258 million

    It has of course made a profit since - it would be difficult not to as it can borrow very cheaply courtesy of the government, while its poor mortgage holders, a highly unattractive bunch on up to 125% mortgages are stiffed.

    "Remains profitable to this day"

    Same old Hamish, same old b*****ks

    See Hamish.

    'Irreputable' :)

    Silly boy.
  • heathcote123
    heathcote123 Posts: 1,133 Forumite
    edited 20 September 2011 at 8:47PM
    geneer wrote: »
    And how old are they?
    That will be the critical thing.


    Theres many a housing estate where young degree carrying professionals are living cheek to jowl with 50 year old taxi drivers an tradesmen. Apparently, there might have been a couple of housing bubbles or something.

    Believe it or not, having a degree does not entitle you to a better wage than anyone else. It's just 3 more years of school.

    I take it you have a degree and think you deserve better?

    Is it somehow unexpected that people accumulate wealth after a lifetime of working?
  • Jimmy_31
    Jimmy_31 Posts: 2,170 Forumite
    Believe it or not, having a degree does not entitle you to a better wage than anyone else. It's just 3 more years of school.

    I take it you have a degree and think you deserve better?

    Is it somehow unexpected that people accumulate wealth after a lifetime of working?

    The fella who works in my local chippy has apparently got a degree in marine biology, i suppose its sort of helpful on a day to day basis.
  • geneer
    geneer Posts: 4,220 Forumite
    Believe it or not, having a degree does not entitle you to a better wage than anyone else. It's just 3 more years of school

    Actually, achieving a professional qualification generally does entitle people to better wages. Its a number of years of additional intensive education followed (in many professions) by the achievement of professional qualifications.

    So do please leave of with the school of hard knocks rhetoric.

    I take it you have a degree and think you deserve better?

    No, I think that having two degrees and a professional qualification has actually given me a better salary.
    Is it does for many professionals.

    Is it somehow unexpected that people accumulate wealth after a lifetime of working?

    By "accumulate wealth" you of course mean that by being of an age they have been in a position to benefit from two housing bubbles and rampant inflation.

    Presumably you feel they "deserve" the benefits of random happenstance?


    Which brings me back to my original point.
    Households of high earning professionals who find themselves living next to bar maids and shelf stackers.
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