Why is it that people are so desperate to own houses?

birkee

B_Blank wrote: »

Inheritance is wrong. You first lines are correct. People have no right to inherit money, it just solidifies inequality in society. Inheritance tax should be 90%

Oh well!
No point in us accumulating wealth and assets is there?
We'll ALL live on Social Security! :rotfl:

(That's if you can figure out who pays the taxes to support it.)

People who believe in equality, are invariably people who want to take what other people have, because if THEY had, they would share it, and they wouldn't have it.
So how may rent free lodgers have you got?

MacMickster

birkee wrote: »

I think YOU have got hold of the wrong end of the stick!

I do have my own money and house, and I would like to pass it on, so you're telling me to "go out and earn" my own, is a misplaced sarcasm don't you think?
My three children also have their own houses, so EXPECT nothing.

Shall I take an apology as read?

You have my apologies for my getting the wrong end of the stick, but your rant against having to pay for a care home if you need it is totally out of order. Who do you think should pay for your care? Me? My son?

Personally, I would prefer to see a much higher rate of inheritance tax with no exempt amount. Add to this a 10% rate of stamp duty for any buyers who already have an interest in a property. This would allow my son to pay less tax during his lifetime at an age when he will benefit from that - not inheriting money when he is already a pensioner himself.

birkee

B_Blank wrote: »

My cousin in somalia would slap your gran silly for saying something like that. He had to die at the age of 4 due to starvation (along with his 6 siblings). Get some perspective you numpty.

See, its easy to say things like that isnt it. Life is all relative. Of course it is. But if you are suggesting that, with tech advancements, that we should be glad we have better education/health care than in 1900 then you are clearly a clown.

You DO come across as the clown.
We deal with our own society, and I refuse to take responsibility for Somalia. What are YOU doing about their pirates, their wars etc?
Do you think giving them food today, will make them civilised tomorrow?
We could perhaps sterilise them all, so they can't have children they can't feed.... would that help do you think?
Perhaps I could send my half eaten toast from breakfast time.

Preservation of my own offspring is a force of nature, and there is no way they I am going to make them equal to Somalian children for your concience. Why aren't YOU there doing something to help?
Oh, that's right, you are living too high off the hog here.
What are you doing about Ethiopean children? and all the other countries in similar situations? Or, is you interest selfishly only interested in Somalia?
You get the wages / social improvements your ancestors WORK for.

And yes. I have a far better life than my parents did, and I'm grateful for it. You say that makes someone a clown? Wierd!

B_Blank

birkee wrote: »

Oh well!
No point in us accumulating wealth and assets is there?
We'll ALL live on Social Security! :rotfl:

(That's if you can figure out who pays the taxes to support it.)

People who believe in equality, are invariably people who want to take what other people have, because if THEY had, they would share it, and they wouldn't have it.
So how may rent free lodgers have you got?

Not really. Inheritance tax is the ONLY form of tax which is completely fair because it has NO EFFECT on the person. They are dead, so they dont need the money anymore. Their children have no right to the money. They didnt earn it so why should they have it?

B_Blank

birkee wrote: »

You DO come across as the clown.
We deal with our own society, and I refuse to take responsibility for Somalia. What are YOU doing about their pirates, their wars etc?
Do you think giving them food today, will make them civilised tomorrow?
We could perhaps sterilise them all, so they can't have children they can't feed.... would that help do you think?
Perhaps I could send my half eaten toast from breakfast time.

Preservation of my own offspring is a force of nature, and there is no way they I am going to make them equal to Somalian children for your concience. Why aren't YOU there doing something to help?
Oh, that's right, you are living too high off the hog here.
What are you doing about Ethiopean children? and all the other countries in similar situations? Or, is you interest selfishly only interested in Somalia?
You get the wages / social improvements your ancestors WORK for.

And yes. I have a far better life than my parents did, and I'm grateful for it. You say that makes someone a clown? Wierd!

You didnt grasp what I was saying! My point was purely to show that annalogies such as the one cleaver used are meaningless. Because quality of life is all relative.

I am not one who is big on overseas aid, and I certainly would never support an overseas aid charity under any circumstances.

birkee

MacMickster wrote: »

You have my apologies for my getting the wrong end of the stick, but your rant against having to pay for a care home if you need it is totally out of order. Who do you think should pay for your care? Me? My son?
Why not? Who pays for the non contributers anyway? Discrimination? tsk tsk tsk!

Personally, I would prefer to see a much higher rate of inheritance tax with no exempt amount. Add to this a 10% rate of stamp duty for any buyers who already have an interest in a property. This would allow my son to pay less tax during his lifetime at an age when he will benefit from that - not inheriting money when he is already a pensioner himself.

Thank you for the word "rant", but why not?
The people who take your viewpoint, are invariably the people who DON'T pay for their care in old age. If you are into fairness, how fair is that?

The people who DO get there, are inevitably the people who've paid taxes all their lives, to keep the Social Security package afloat, and instead of a thank you, they get their homes taken from them.

How about treating it like a pension? If you haven't paid into it, you don't get it?

Jimmy_31

REWIRED_GHU0L wrote: »

If I am providing a roof over a renters head, the very very least I expect from them is to respect my investment and live by my rules.

When it all kicks off you should expect something different to happen, probably when you request your rent the tenant will tell you through your own BTL property window to pi55 off:rotfl:, well yours and the banks window:rotfl:well mainly the banks window:rotfl:

birkee

B_Blank wrote: »

Not really. Inheritance tax is the ONLY form of tax which is completely fair because it has NO EFFECT on the person. They are dead, so they dont need the money anymore. Their children have no right to the money. They didnt earn it so why should they have it?

It's no good! I can't get into your rationality!
"My children didn't earn it, they have no right to it"?

And you DO have a right to it?
You didn't earn it either, neither did the state.
Logic fail!

Cleaver

B_Blank wrote: »

Well ok. The trend is towards the domination of a landed class. Can we agree on that?

A "landed class"? No, don't agree with that. I think house prices will fall over the next couple of years and I don't think we'll see real house prices get back to 2007 levels in most areas for a long, long time. I think any areas that claim to be at 2007 levels now will stay there, or below, for a long, long time. I think we'll very slowly pull out of recession and that mortgage availability will start to ease. I really don't see house prices having another boom for maybe a decade or two, so therefore I think they will become affordable for the next generation.

Don't think we're headed for a "domination of a landed class". I don't even really know what that means, as it just doesn't seem relevant in the 21st century. Most people aren't that bothered about it all are they?

B_Blank

birkee wrote: »

Thank you for the word "rant", but why not?
The people who take your viewpoint, are invariably the people who DON'T pay for their care in old age. If you are into fairness, how fair is that?

The people who DO get there, are inevitably the people who've paid taxes all their lives, to keep the Social Security package afloat, and instead of a thank you, they get their homes taken from them.

How about treating it like a pension? If you haven't paid into it, you don't get it?

Why would you care about paying for your own care? You cant take your money with you when you die so you might as well spend it on care. And you should be made to spend what you have on care.