Received Parking Charge from UKPC

ljb1967

Hi EVeryone

I wonder if you could give me some advice. I recently parked at a retail park which previosuly didnt have any parking charges. As I had parked here several times before, I simply didnt notice the new signs which had been put up, and so I parked without getting a ticket.

I visited one of the stores and made a purchase (I was about 45 mins), then returned to my car to find a charge ticket for £90!! I couldnt believe it. Especially as the sign stated that the first 2 hours parking are free!!

So I looked over the forums and decided to dispute the ticket, on the grounds that it was excessive, using the template letter on here. They sent me a generic reply back asking me to pay up, so I replied again saying that they dod not address my original complaint. I had also attached a copy of my receipt to prove that I had been legitimately using the car park.

They have now written to me telling me to pay up or it will go to debt recovery. What should be my next step? Do I simply ignore, or reply again saying its still in dispute?

Any advice would be helpful...

Thanks, ljb1967

pogofish

If you have looked over the forums, how did you miss that the best way of dealing with these predators is to ignore them completely from the outset?

AlexisV

As you've discovered, there is no genuine 'appeals' process.

Simply ignore. Once you've got one if these things, there's nothing you can do to stop the debt collections letters.

ljb1967

I think I was being a bit of a wuss!! I suppose I thought if I stated my case and send evidence it would be better than ignoring the letter.....

funkycoldribena

ljb1967 wrote: »

I think I was being a bit of a wuss!! I suppose I thought if I stated my case and send evidence it would be better than ignoring the letter.....

You thought wrong! All they want is your cash.

vax2002

You have not been given a parking ticket or a fine:
From a legal prospective what you have been given is an "invitation to pay a private invoice".
You are legally within your rights to reject the invitation and keep your money:
What will happen is they will buy your private data from DVLA and send a series of menacing letters threatening to take you to court and then more letters from fake debt collectors and fake solicitors again all threatening to take you to court.
They will not take you to court as legally they have no power to fine you or charge you a penalty.
In short it is a scam of impersonation of officialdom and empty threats.
HOW TO DEAL:
IGNORE everything, ignore all letters, ignore all fake solicitors letters and ignore all fake debt collectors.
They will get fed up and move on to another victim.
IGNORE Means exactly that IGNORE, you do not appeal, there is no appeal it is part of the scam, you do not bite back, do not write or do anything to correspond and they will go away, if they call your telephone, do not confirm any information place the handset down and leave it of the hook for ten minutes .
BE WARNED evidence on these and other forums clearly describes how people who do pay these hoping they go away receive further demands for more money, often several hundreds of pounds.



Just to add, these parking scams rely on giving you something to pull at, they know some people just can not resist trying to be proved right and if you step back calm down you will see that what you are actually standing in is a very cleverly thought out trap designed to get you to take the obvious bait on the floor, they have had thousands of attempts and perfecting the trap and perfecting the bait, so you think you have spotted a flaw, a loop hole, when in fact what you have seen is what they have left out for you to see and by the time you realise you have been hooked you are well in to a dialogue with them.
Knowing that they have a live fish on the hook is 99% of the scam, but if you ignore them they dont know who you are from adam yes they have the keepers details but the driver is responsible and you do not have to correspond and give them any information, for all they know fred blogs details supplied by DVLA could be the local crown court Judge, senior police officer or local bone crunching no neck thug waiting to dish out some instant justice.

ljb1967

Thanks for the advice - I will now ignore future correspondence. I was just concerned because of the debt collection element, but I guess if they are serious then they can issue county court proceedings and I can defend it then...

esmerobbo

ljb1967 wrote: »

Thanks for the advice - I will now ignore future correspondence. I was just concerned because of the debt collection element, but I guess if they are serious then they can issue county court proceedings and I can defend it then...

People do seem afraid of "Debt collectors" however they are absolutely powerless. The only thing they can do is ask you to pay! You have the power to ignore them!

RENEGADE_2

The two things to remember are this: 1) you owe nothing to anyone unless it has been proven in court. These so-called "debt collectors" are part of the wider scam and they are trying to suck money out of you without having gone to court; 2) the amount sought by the nexus is unfair in that it does not constitute losses and since the legislation is Contract Law, they may not seek more.

Pointless appealing, there is no perusal system, just an unfriendly mob ready and waiting to reject everything. If it went to court - and it won't - you'd win hands down, but for now, I say each time their litter lands on your mat, don't open it, you'll recognise it by its presentation and/or return address, then stick it back in the post marked "refused". That way, Muggins has paid for your appeal letter, the one telling them to shove it!

Kite2010

Ignore UKPC and more importantly ignore the shops whom has been foolish enough to allow them to harass customers (but send a letter to the managers saying that you will be shopping at *name local rival* or on the internet following harassment from UKPC)

The sooner the shops relies that having PPCs is driving away business they will try and kick them out