New builds are "shamefull shoeboxes"

JonnyBravo

Graham_Devon wrote: »

People don't like companies that go about their business finding ways of artificially inflating prices to unaffordable levels, for company profits.

If they raise prices to a point where it genuinely is unaffordable then they make ZERO profit.
You mean raise prices so as to make it expensive for some/most*.

* Delete according to preference

Graham_Devon

Really2 wrote: »

Good set your car on fire then, show them who the bosses come to think of it any other item you own.

Virtually everything is made to suit demand and retain some profit, from what I remember builders wrote down £100's of millions in land costs in 2008.

Profiterring Barstewards.:mad: Runing a company to make money and keeping themselves afloat.

When I were a lad they sold thing at a loss to keep punters happy??????

Stop being such a drama queen.

Would you be happy if the gas companies decided to all act together and switch off some of the supplies to the UK, and then continuously put prices up outside the reach of the average family?

Would you be even happier if said gas companies then wanted to use tax monies to bolster up those who cannot afford the gas prices due to said suppliers purposely restricting the flow?

It's pretty much the same thing. British Gas could just turn around and say "well we have the pipes, and the gas, were just not pumping the gas as we want higher prices".

Really2

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Stop being such a drama queen.

Would you be happy if the gas companies decided to all act together and switch off some of the supplies to the UK, and then continuously put prices up outside the reach of the average family?

Would you be even happier if said gas companies then wanted to use tax monies to bolster up those who cannot afford the gas prices due to said suppliers purposely restricting the flow?

It's pretty much the same thing. British Gas could just turn around and say "well we have the pipes, and the gas, were just not pumping the gas as we want higher prices".

Would the equiverlent of what you want is for the gas companies release all their gas at once?

Do Gas companies not release the gas that is needed to meet demand to cover cost and retain good profits?

Are they not sitting on untapped resources all over the world??

Are there any home builders in the ftse 100 any more? Must be all that money they are making??


Not thought it through again, oh dear. Think real world GD than you fantasy land, you will see the two are remarkably similar.

They both aquire land they can work on for future projects, and in times of less demand throttle back production to meet demand and retain a level of profitability.

Anyone can buy land and build on it. maybe not on a massive scale but the usual UK version s to blame someone else.

It was the land they owned that nearly busted them in 2008. Who's to blame for the cost they buy land, let's all blame someone else for the reality we are an island with a large population and little resources to carry on meeting housing and food demand for the future.

Wheezy_2

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Did the penis enlargement tactics work?

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Graham_Devon

Really2 wrote: »

Would the equiverlent of what you want is for the gas companies release all their gas at once?

Do Gas companies not release the gas that is needed to meet demand to cover cost and retain good profits?

Are they not sitting on untapped resources all over the world??

Are there any home builders in the ftse 100 any more? Must be all that money they are making??


Not thought it through again, oh dear.

None of that answered the question I asked.

I'll ask again. Would you be happy for gas suppliers to reduce available supply by turning off some of their pipes and then put prices up based on high demand for whats left?

CLAPTON

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Stop being such a drama queen.

Would you be happy if the gas companies decided to all act together and switch off some of the supplies to the UK, and then continuously put prices up outside the reach of the average family?

Would you be even happier if said gas companies then wanted to use tax monies to bolster up those who cannot afford the gas prices due to said suppliers purposely restricting the flow?

It's pretty much the same thing. British Gas could just turn around and say "well we have the pipes, and the gas, were just not pumping the gas as we want higher prices".

well, the gas industry is being investigated to see whether price fixing is taking place

and for the record British Gas doesn't own the pipes anymore: a German or French company does (and it doesn't pump the gas either)

Graham_Devon

CLAPTON wrote: »

well, the gas industry is being investigated to see whether price fixing is taking place

and for the record British Gas doesn't own the pipes anymore: a German or French company does (and it doesn't pump the gas either)

It's just an analogy.

Holes can certainly be picked, but it would be nice for the question to be answered!

kabayiri

Wheezy wrote: »

Here's ours

Jeepers.

Don't invite us around to play Cluedo will you? We would be there all night!

Really2

Graham_Devon wrote: »

None of that answered the question I asked.

I'll ask again. Would you be happy for gas suppliers to reduce available supply by turning off some of their pipes and then put prices up based on high demand for whats left?

Oh graham getting upset I did not answer a question totally unrelated to building.

Captain bottle a question demands an answer.:rotfl:

We I am polite, (unlike you)

A) They have lots of gas and already set the price to extent to cover costs and margin by not just releasing it all at once.
They hold back supply so they have some to sell in the future also.

Do you really not understand that businesses have costs Eg land etc, and one of the first rules of a sustainable business is covering costs and having longevity, what is the point of drowning the market so you are bust and without a product to sell down the line?.


So graham, Builders and Gas companies both hold land banks for future development. Otherwise they have nothing to sell in the future. doh.

Am I happy, it's how business works, I would rather have some gas tomorrow than free gas today.

Hang on, I remember who I am debating with.

CLAPTON

Graham_Devon wrote: »

It's just an analogy.

Holes can certainly be picked, but it would be nice for the question to be answered!

if there is a genuine cartel operating in the building trade then due process of law should be applied and they should be prosecuted under the monopolies act. rather than arbitary confiscation etc

in my view are are many reasons why houses aren't being built; shortage of buyers, shortgage of finance, our mad planning laws, profitability etc and maybe cartels too