New builds are "shamefull shoeboxes"

Running_Horse

And as if to reinforce the point:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/hands-off-our-land/8763931/Hands-Off-Our-Land-the-300000-new-homes-already-in-the-bank.html

330,000 homes with planning permission, but not one brick layed yet because the builders want to keep prices high.

shar46y

Running_Horse wrote: »

I would like to see some kind of homesteading with plots of land distributed to individuals, who would pay collectively for water, roads, etc. But they could build pretty much anything on their plot of land. Such new communities would avoid the identikit look of so many modern developments, and nobody is going to design their new house with a ten foot by ten foot main bedroom.

I saw a programme on Channel 4 which featured a development in the Netherlands which had something like that. Ordinary people could buy plots and put up a house of their own design. It looked very quirky and charming.

Can't remember what the series was called, but it was all about house and building design.

robmatic

Running_Horse wrote: »

And as if to reinforce the point:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/hands-off-our-land/8763931/Hands-Off-Our-Land-the-300000-new-homes-already-in-the-bank.html

330,000 homes with planning permission, but not one brick layed yet because the builders want to keep prices high.

New build houses that are already or are being constructed are hardly flying off the shelves at the moment... why would construction start on more in that situation?

Graham_Devon

Running_Horse wrote: »

And as if to reinforce the point:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/hands-off-our-land/8763931/Hands-Off-Our-Land-the-300000-new-homes-already-in-the-bank.html

330,000 homes with planning permission, but not one brick layed yet because the builders want to keep prices high.

The whole system is a complete farce.

Builders won't build unless prices rise. People can't pay the prices.

Therefore, stalemate, and the government says 330,000 homes are not really all that important as it's only a years worth anyway.

Running_Horse

robmatic wrote: »

New build houses that are already or are being constructed are hardly flying off the shelves at the moment... why would construction start on more in that situation?

My point exactly. They are restricting supply to keep prices high; deliberately acting against the national interest.

Perhaps if they had to pay full council tax as soon as permission was granted, they might get the houses built. And if they won't, make them sell to someone who will. They have already made a healthy profit from the planning permission.

Compulsory purchase was used to clear the slums, so why not to free up plots with planning permission? This is too important to be left to a handful of greedy companies.

Really2

Running_Horse wrote: »

My point exactly. They are restricting supply to keep prices high; deliberately acting against the national interest.

Perhaps if they had to pay full council tax as soon as permission was granted, they might get the houses built. And if they won't, make them sell to someone who will. They have already made a healthy profit from the planning permission.

Compulsory purchase was used to clear the slums, so why not to free up plots with planning permission? This is too important to be left to a handful of greedy companies.

Should the same be done with cars, DVD players, TV's etc?
Produce as much as you can, sell at a loss?

People seem to like companies when they want jobs but not when they spend their wages?

Graham_Devon

Really2 wrote: »

People seem to like companies when they want jobs but not when they spend their wages?

People don't like companies that go about their business finding ways of artificially inflating prices to unaffordable levels, for company profits.

JonnyBravo

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Did the penis enlargement tactics work?

:rolls eyes:

Feeling a little jealous/insecure there Graham?

Thank the lord when I was conversing on a thread about extensions recently that I PM'ed plans to someone and didnt put them up for you to see. I'd have been hunted down and shot for my obviously prized overlarge third leg.

Really2

Graham_Devon wrote: »

People don't like companies that go about their business finding ways of artificially inflating prices to unaffordable levels, for company profits.

Good, set your car on fire then, show them who the boss is. Come to think of it any other item you own.

Virtually everything is made to suit demand and retain some profit, from what I remember builders wrote down £100's of millions in land costs in 2008.

Profiterring Barstewards.:mad: Runing a company to make money and keeping themselves afloat.

When I were a lad they sold thing at a loss to keep punters happy??????

wastedtalent

shortchanged wrote: »

Out of curiosity are you buying solely with a deposit and mortgage or are you doing some form of shared equity?

Solely, wouldn't touch these 'schemes'.