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sismith42

longforgotten wrote: »

So the deal is make a new family happy by, maybe, ruining someone else's life. He could end up in an area he does not want to live in, knows nobody............ He is not a young person

I still think its unfair. It's like a game of a pass the parcel and he's the parcel ! All for the good of someone else.

Would you be able to take him in? Or one of the other people worried about where he's going to go?

longforgotten

Would you be able to take him in? Or one of the other people worried about where he's going to go?

I'm new to the village and I admit I do not know the guy.

I also admit I didn't realise that a council house should not be considered a home for life, and you can just be moved if told to do so.

Now I come to think of it I had an uncle who lived in a council house for many years on his own after his four children had moved out and his wife died. He would have lived in that house maybe fourty years before he died, spending the last seven years on his own.

Times have changed.

longforgotten

I was hoping there was some way to help the guy keep what he must consider his home.

It just seems a terrible shame.

Thank you for all the replies.

ic

i don't think times have changed, its just the circumstances are slightly different - according to the rules the tenancy can transfer once after a death, after a second death, it is up to the council:

What happens to a tenancy when someone dies
If you live together, you may be able to pass on your tenancy to:
* your spouse (husband or wife)
* your registered civil partner
* a close family member – as long as they lived with you continuously for 12 months or more before you died
Passing on the tenancy like this is called 'succession'.
A tenancy can only be passed on once. If you took over your tenancy through succession, no one would have the right to succession when you die. Your council may give the person a new tenancy so they can continue to live at the property. The council may offer the person another property.

So the tenancy was probably between the parents, one died and it passed to the other. Now the remaining parent has died it doesn't pass again to the son.

I'm pretty sure the government wants to change the rules for new tenants that means that a council can rehouse people sooner - as demand requires. There is a housing shortage and councils need to be able to house new tenants. Sadly this is how it is. The council shouldn't just kick him out, they should rehouse him first.

Emmzi

on the plus side he'll only need to find the rent for a one bed flat now instead of paying over the odds for a larger house - if he's on HB he won't get rent paid for over his entitlement.

Werdnal

ic wrote: »

i don't think times have changed, its just the circumstances are slightly different - according to the rules the tenancy can transfer once after a death, after a second death, it is up to the council:

So the tenancy was probably between the parents, one died and it passed to the other. Now the remaining parent has died it doesn't pass again to the son.

I'm pretty sure the government wants to change the rules for new tenants that means that a council can rehouse people sooner - as demand requires. There is a housing shortage and councils need to be able to house new tenants. Sadly this is how it is. The council shouldn't just kick him out, they should rehouse him first.

I agree with this. I am afraid my brother will suffer the same fate when my parents pass away. He has had a few health issues over the years, and found it difficult to work long-term and afford a place of his own. He even lived in a caravan for a while, but that got broken into so he came home again. M&D have a HA property, currently in their joint names - when one goes, the succession rules state only one change of tenant, so the other will inherit the tenancy, then my brother will eventually need to move when the other finally goes.

I also agree that the council cannot simply throw anyone out on the street, but I think although there is a duty to rehome, there is often little choice of where or what type of property they will be offered. It could be in a totally different location, or being a single person, even a flat. I also seem to remember there being a clause that they will offer only 3 alternative properties, and if these are all refused, then the tenant has made themselves homeless, although I may have imagined this!

longforgotten

Does the succession have to pass to the spouse.

Perhaps once one parent dies it would be best to pass succession on to 'a close family member', in this case son, if their intention is not to move out.

At least, after looking after both parents because of their ill health, this chap would have the choice of staying at his home once his remaining parent passed away.

I wonder if the council give advice on 'succession' .............

longforgotten

Also must apologise that my thread only says 'Q'

I had intended for it to read 'Can the Council make you move' but obviously I boobed and managed 'Q' instead.

westv

longforgotten wrote: »

Does the succession have to pass to the spouse.

Perhaps once one parent dies it would be best to pass succession on to 'a close family member', in this case son, if their intention is not to move out.

At least, after looking after both parents because of their ill health, this chap would have the choice of staying at his home once his remaining parent passed away.

I wonder if the council give advice on 'succession' .............

What would happen though if the son had died before the wife?

poppysarah

Is there no one within this loving sharing village who wants a lodger?