Homelessness could spread to middle class

lynzpower

Graham_Devon wrote: »

I'd bet large sums of money that most people will be able to do a damn good job of that one.

I'd be extremely confident in getting a strike rate of at least 7 out of every 10.

Likewise im sure that you could take one look at my OH and most people would assume he is employed, when he isnt, as he- like OH so many others have been laid off. Likewise when Im walking down the street with my work tag around my neck and looking pretty smarted, people will think I work too, but alas Im doing a years worth of unpaid work experience.

Hasn't devon been hit really hard with closing businesses and redundancy?

ILW

Does make you wonder when it costs over a grand a month to rent a 2 bed flat in even the grottiest parts of London.

System

The ambiguities and anomalies thrown up by reports and discussions like these stem from the confusion of "class" with "income".

If someone is middle class by inheritance, education, speech, outlook, then that isn't altered by becoming jobless. They may be living under the arches and disowned by their family, but they can't escape being middle class. No more can someone escape being working class or upper class.

But if some one is "middle income" and loses his job and income and and his home then he immediately becomes low income, tramp, spounger, or whatever, exactly the same as a worker would, or indeed that Earl who was recently reported to be "destitute".

It's typically British to deliberately mix up these concepts and then get tied up in knots finding they don't work properly.

Graham_Devon

lynzpower wrote: »

Likewise im sure that you could take one look at my OH and most people would assume he is employed, when he isnt, as he- like OH so many others have been laid off. Likewise when Im walking down the street with my work tag around my neck and looking pretty smarted, people will think I work too, but alas Im doing a years worth of unpaid work experience.

Hasn't devon been hit really hard with closing businesses and redundancy?

Thought we were talking about identifying chavs that don't work?

lynzpower

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Thought we were talking about identifying chavs that don't work?

Thats the point, surely you might look at us and think we do work when indeed we are just freeloading chav scum who dont work.

Possibly

Graham_Devon

lynzpower wrote: »

Thats the point, surely you might look at us and think we do work when indeed we are just freeloading chav scum who dont work.

Possibly

Unless you are dressed like a chav and slouching along the road like a chav, I wouldn't be thinking of you as a chav!

Percy1983

lynzpower wrote: »

Thats the point, surely you might look at us and think we do work when indeed we are just freeloading chav scum who dont work.

Possibly

The point is being out of work doesn't equal chav. From the sounds of it your other half is out of work and looking so by definition is not a chav and just unlucky, he most probably has the right attitude in life and to others so probably fits right in with us workers and will be a worker again.

Like wise you sound like you have a work effic and are doing unpaid work to lead to paid work, yet again you don't look like a chav as you are not a chav.

As I say Chav is deeper than working or not working.

lynzpower

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Unless you are dressed like a chav and slouching along the road like a chav, I wouldn't be thinking of you as a chav!

its just the judgement though isnt it?

just seems so many on here waste time slinging judgement when its unneccesary. sometimes i even pop to lidl in my trainers, jeans and my hair in a pony tail, maybe people think that about me? is that "slouching?"

at the end of the day my OH is looking for work as am I but theres just not that much of it about.

we cant pay our rent at the moment, and there are others like me who cant either.

PasturesNew

If you're homeless, you're not middle class.... so it's an oxymoron.

ukcarper

Percy1983 wrote: »

The point is being out of work doesn't equal chav. From the sounds of it your other half is out of work and looking so by definition is not a chav and just unlucky, he most probably has the right attitude in life and to others so probably fits right in with us workers and will be a worker again.

Like wise you sound like you have a work effic and are doing unpaid work to lead to paid work, yet again you don't look like a chav as you are not a chav.

As I say Chav is deeper than working or not working.

Could you or Graham explain what a chav looks like for me?