Looking for a landlord

Person_one

Does anybody know a way to find out who owns a property without having to pay the land registry?

DVardysShadow

Obviously you want to beat £4. What is your target price?

Person_one

DVardysShadow wrote: »

Obviously you want to beat £4. What is your target price?

Hey, you can use sarcasm!

I'm seeing a price of £19.95, if you can point me in the direction of the £4 option that would be more helpful.

[Deleted User]

Hi,

if you're in Scotland you could try this, might be something similar for rest of Britain.

DVardysShadow

Person_one wrote: »

Hey, you can use sarcasm!

I'm seeing a price of £19.95, if you can point me in the direction of the £4 option that would be more helpful.

https://www.landregistry.gov.uk/wps/portal/Property_Search

I think you have found a legal but scam site with a similar name which charges you an extra £15.95 to make the same request for you as you would yourself on the Land Registry's site

Alter_ego

If you live in this landlord's property, the agent must supply his name and address.

00ec25

Alter_ego wrote: »

If you live in this landlord's property, the agent must supply his name and address.

true, however, the L may not be the owner, similarly the owner may not be the LL

it depends on what the OP wants - the real land registry site (the .gov one ) and £4 will find the owner

Jeffrey_Shaw

00ec25 wrote: »

true, however, the L may not be the owner, similarly the owner may not be the LL

it depends on what the OP wants - the real land registry site (the .gov one ) and £4 will find the owner

Yes, but only if the owner's estate in the property is registered.

Alter_ego

00ec25 wrote: »

true, however, the L may not be the owner, similarly the owner may not be the LL

Been thinking about this, could you explain how the two can be different please?

Jeffrey_Shaw

Alter_ego wrote: »

Been thinking about this, could you explain how the two can be different please?

Yes. Really, only the owner(s) can let.
But someone as L [landlord] representing him'herself as entitled to let is bound by the Letting Agreement (despite any lack of ownership or lack of capacity to let). The case showing this is Bruton v. London and Quadrant Housing Trust [1999] UKHL 26; [2000] 1 AC 406; [1999] 3 All ER 481 (24th June, 1999)- see http://www.bailii.org/cgi-bin/markup.cgi?doc=/uk/cases/UKHL/1999/26.html&query=title+(+Quadrant+)+and+title+(+Housing+)&method=boolean

In it, the House of Lords held that The present case does not depend upon the establishing of an estoppel nor does any problem arise from the fact that the Housing Trust did not have a legal estate. The case of Mr Bruton depends upon his establishing that his agreement with the Housing Trust has the legal effect of creating a relationship of tenant and landlord between them. That is all.

G_M

Jeffrey_Shaw wrote: »

Yes, but only if the owner's estate in the property is registered.

And only if the owners registered address is accurate. Many owners register their Title using the property itself (usually because they live there initially) and never amend the address when they move out and rent the property.

Especially, of course, if they are 'hiding' their rental status from, for example, their mortgage lender or HMRC.

However, equally you cannot assume just because the address at the Land Registry is still the property address, that they are hiding their rental status - amending the LR address is pretty low down on the priorities of new landlords, and relatively unimportant.