Xmas and New Year

ohdamm

I currently work 20hrs over a 3 day period and my days are a Mon, Sat, Sun. As admin staff (ward clerk) within then NHS we're not required to work bank holidays etc if we choose not to. Last xmas though, we were told by management that all xmas and new year was to be covered from now on and the staff whose days fell on these days etc would be expected to to work them.

The theory is that this is fair since it would come round to each member of staff on their working days each year at some point so we'd all get a turn. Now whilst I'm always more than co-operative I'm thinking it's a bit much to expect me to work xmas eve (Sat this year), xmas day (Sun) and boxing day (Mon)....I'll then get new years eve (Sat), new years day (Sun) and bank holiday (Mon).

That's a lot isn't it when you consider that the other member of staff on the ward won't be doing any! How's this fair and bearing in mind next year I'll still be falling for more than my fair share.

Am I being unreasonable to question it?

SarEl

No - but you are just a tad late! Since they told you this last year, they have varied your contractual terms and you are too late (legally) to do anything about it.

paddedjohn

At least working for the NHS you will be paid a bucket full of money for covering the holidays, normal pay for me this year on xmas day and boxing day.

SarEl

paddedjohn wrote: »

At least working for the NHS you will be paid a bucket full of money for covering the holidays, normal pay for me this year on xmas day and boxing day.

Why? Most NHS workers I know get normal time for bank holidays and just a day in lieu.

Furny

If you are going to have to do it I think you just going to have to think along the lines that it is only a few hours each day in those days (20hrs divided by three) although if you have family it's not nice really.
Out of interest if you don't mind me asking how do you find the job? as I was looking at this job advertised the other day in my local NHS hospital on the NHS website?.

getmore4less

SarEl wrote: »

Why? Most NHS workers I know get normal time for bank holidays and just a day in lieu.

What jobs are these people in.

Holidays start at 27+8, 5 years 29+8 , 10year 33+8

Work a BH and you don't use a day of holiday

NHS enhance pay for unsocial hours
Any time on Saturday (midnight to midnight) and any week day after 8 pm and before 6 am:

• Band 1 - Time plus 50%
• Band 2 - Time plus 44%
• Band 3 - Time plus 37%
• Band 4-9 - Time plus 30%.

All time on Sundays and Public Holidays (midnight to midnight):

• Band 1 - Double time
• Band 2 - Time plus 88%
• Band 3 - Time plus 74%
• Band 4-9 - Time plus 60%.

Dizzy_Ditzy

most NHS trusts dont pay overtime or extra rates anymore so you're basically getting single time in lieu

SarEl

getmore4less wrote: »

What jobs are these people in.

And which era are you in? I can't name a trust within 100 miles in any direction of me that keeps these conditions.

mountainofdebt

I personally can see more of these threads being posted as government bodies move back into the real world.

scheming_gypsy

getmore4less wrote: »

What jobs are these people in.

Holidays start at 27+8, 5 years 29+8 , 10year 33+8

Work a BH and you don't use a day of holiday

NHS enhance pay for unsocial hours
Any time on Saturday (midnight to midnight) and any week day after 8 pm and before 6 am:

• Band 1 - Time plus 50%
• Band 2 - Time plus 44%
• Band 3 - Time plus 37%
• Band 4-9 - Time plus 30%.

All time on Sundays and Public Holidays (midnight to midnight):

• Band 1 - Double time
• Band 2 - Time plus 88%
• Band 3 - Time plus 74%
• Band 4-9 - Time plus 60%.

i'm guessing you copied and pasted that from:
http://www.rcn.org.uk/support/pay_and_conditions/supplements_-_unsocial_hours__and__oncall/unsocial_hours

but omitted the first line

AfC unsocial hours payments while on annual leave - AFC Section 13

New arrangements have been confirmed for payment of unsocial hours on annual leave.

snapping_crocodile

SarEl wrote: »

Why? Most NHS workers I know get normal time for bank holidays and just a day in lieu.

I don't now any trusts, from my own exprience that do this. I've only ever known the payments as per getmore4less's post. The trust I work for however will only pay us the bank holiday rate for a maximum of 2 dates over christmas. So say last year I worked christmas eve, christmas day, boxing day and bank holiday monday, I would only get paid 2 bank holidays, say for instance christmas day and bank holiday monday, then I would get sunday pay for boxing day and nothing extra for christmas eve as it's not a BH. No trusts I have known have a day off in lieu either, because if you are not off automatically on BHs it forms part of your annual leave entitlement. Not sure if that makes sense?! :cool: