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Ongoing Utility Warehouse problem...

miss_divine
miss_divine Posts: 10 Forumite
edited 26 August 2011 at 11:10AM in Energy
Hi there, I am not used to posting in this forum, so please don't flame me if I get something wrong :wave:.

Here is the situation:

We lived in an extremely small rented property from 07/12/09 - 03/08/10, it contained four tiny rooms, one storage heater which was broken for 5 months, used economy 7 and had no gas supply. We were with Utility Warehouse for the electricity and were billed £546.34. We were in full time employment for the majority of the tenancy and there is just no way that we can have used so much electricity.

We then moved to a much larger property with gas central heating, with energy supplied by British Gas. We were there from 04/08/10 - 11/06/11 and were billed a total of [FONT=&quot]£260.82 for electricity. We are still struggling to pay off monthly direct debits to Utility Warehouse and we have been contesting this bill since before we left the first property.

They have now offered to perform a meter accuracy test (if they can get the permission from the current tenants), the outcome of which we will be bound to and have put our account on hold for 30 days. We cannot afford to continue to make payments, we are expecting our first child.

Have we been completely ripped off? Any advice would be very helpful.

Thanks,
Coral.

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  • miss_divine
    miss_divine Posts: 10 Forumite
    edited 26 August 2011 at 11:12AM
    Oh, I forgot to add that we had asked Utility Warehouse about the sheer difference in these prices, and a rep replied with this:

    "Having looked at these bills, we can establish the following -
    First property - Electricity only property on Eco 7 with a defective night storage heater.

    07/12/2009 83065 Day 77931 Night Opening meter reading.
    17/12/2009 83218 Day 77384 Night Actual reading when meter was removed.
    153 Day 547 Night Total

    18/12/2009 1 Day 1 Night Opening meter reading on new meter
    04/08/2010 3025 Day 1823 Night Closing meter reading
    3025 Day 1823 Night Total

    07/12/2009
    04/08/2010 3178 Day 2370 Night = 5548 units over +- 9 months = +- 616 units per month.

    Second Property - Electricity and gas, but larger property.

    04/08/2010 4343
    11/05/2011 6495
    2152 units over +- 9 months = +- 240 units per month

    I wish to refer you to the energy efficiency website -
    (Energy Saving Trust) which states as follows -

    "Boilers account for around 60% of what you spend in a year on energy bills,"

    Therefore, if the first property had had gas on which to run the boiler, your usage would have been 60% less therefore we could say you would have used 370 units less therefore perhaps only around 246 units per month, this is almost identical to what you use at your new property which has a gas supply.

    I am sorry but my comparisons do not indicate to me any area of concern."

    In the first property when the storage heater was broken (there was no boiler, only an immersion for hot tap water, the shower was electric), we had no way of heating the flat. We simply wore extra clothing as we weren't home much anyway. So to say that we compensated for not having a gas supply by using more electricity to heat the property doesn't really equal that out...
  • Cardew
    Cardew Posts: 29,064 Forumite
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    This issue is not really UW specific.

    For you to use only 5,548kWh from Dec to August in an all electric flat is very low consumption.

    Most people will have used over 2,000kWh on electrical appliances and lighting in that period without considering hot water showers etc.

    I am afraid that I would agree with the UW rep that level of consumption gives no cause for concern.
  • macman
    macman Posts: 53,129 Forumite
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    And, should the meter prove accurate, then you will presumably have the cost of the test added to your debt.
    No free lunch, and no free laptop ;)
  • Premier_2
    Premier_2 Posts: 15,141 Forumite
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    Hi there, I am not used to posting in this forum, so please don't flame me if I get something wrong :wave:.

    Here is the situation:

    We lived in an extremely small rented property from 07/12/09 - 03/08/10, it contained four tiny rooms, one storage heater which was broken for 5 months, used economy 7 and had no gas supply. We were with Utility Warehouse for the electricity and were billed £546.34. We were in full time employment for the majority of the tenancy and there is just no way that we can have used so much electricity.

    We then moved to a much larger property with gas central heating, with energy supplied by British Gas. We were there from 04/08/10 - 11/06/11 and were billed a total of [FONT=&quot]£260.82 for electricity. We are still struggling to pay off monthly direct debits to Utility Warehouse and we have been contesting this bill since before we left the first property.

    [FONT=&quot]They have now offered to perform a meter accuracy test (if they can get the permission from the current tenants), the outcome of which we will be bound to and have put our account on hold for 30 days. We cannot afford to continue to make payments, we are expecting our first child. [/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]Have we been completely ripped off? Any advice would be very helpful.[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]Thanks,[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Coral.[/FONT]
    [/FONT]

    As the supplier has offered to put your account on hold for 30 days pending the meter check (and you no longer live at the property) then you should not be expected to pay anything for at least 30 days.
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  • klint
    klint Posts: 265 Forumite
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    Oh, I forgot to add that we had asked Utility Warehouse about the sheer difference in these prices, and a rep replied with this:

    "Having looked at these bills, we can establish the following -
    First property - Electricity only property on Eco 7 with a defective night storage heater.

    07/12/2009 83065 Day 77931 Night Opening meter reading.
    17/12/2009 83218 Day 77384 Night Actual reading when meter was removed.
    153 Day 547 Night Total


    How come the night reading on 17/12/2009 was less than when you moved in? I've never heard of meters going backwards.
  • chanz4
    chanz4 Posts: 11,057 Forumite
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    they go backwards if the polarity is reversed
    Don't put your trust into an Experian score - it is not a number any bank will ever use & it is generally a waste of money to purchase it. They are also selling you insurance you dont need.
  • I'd agree with the above, the amount seems about right for an all electricity property. Particuarly if you were using an immersion for the hot water.

    To be honest, accuaracy tests very seldom come back in the customer's favour, and I'd imagine they will charge you for the privilige. I'd recommend contacting them to arrange a payment plan for the outstanding. Any decent company would give you 12 months to pay it in instalments.
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