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Premium bonds

Please can anyone tell me statistically, if I was to invest the maximum £30,000 in premium bonds, is it best to buy 3 x blocks of £10,000 or one block of £30,000?

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  • Aegis
    Aegis Posts: 5,695 Forumite
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    Please can anyone tell me statistically, if I was to invest the maximum £30,000 in premium bonds, is it best to buy 3 x blocks of £10,000 or one block of £30,000?
    No difference at all, it's a random number game.
    I am a Chartered Financial Planner
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  • opinions4u
    opinions4u Posts: 19,411 Forumite
    10 lots of £3k. 3,000 lots of £100.

    The result is the same.

    The chance of winning or otherwise is the same.
  • Sceptic001
    Sceptic001 Posts: 1,111 Forumite
    If I were to put £30k into an instant access account paying 3% gross, this would generate approx. £60 per month for a basic rate taxpayer. Can anyone tell me if statistically I would be better off buying £60 of lottery tickets per month or putting my £30k into premium bonds? ;)
  • talexuser
    talexuser Posts: 3,543 Forumite
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    The lottery chances are 1 in ~14million for every pound, with nothing back. Premium bonds are much better odds of something like 1 in ~36000 for any prize, but the million pound prize is much worse at something like 40 billion to 1... but with stake money back.

    With 30000 in Premium bonds I guess you're getting near 98-99% probability of winning a prize every year (but which prize is the guess). The calculator here reckons an average return of 400 pounds in prizes per year.
  • Ark_Welder
    Ark_Welder Posts: 1,878 Forumite
    talexuser wrote: »
    The lottery chances are 1 in ~14million for every pound

    That's the odds of winning the top prize, i.e. six numbers. Odds of winning a Tenner are 1:57. Minimum odds on Thunderball is 1:29, EuroMillions is 1:23


    http://www.national-lottery.co.uk/player/p/help/playinginstore/lotto.ftl

    http://www.national-lottery.co.uk/player/p/help/playinginstore/thunderball.ftl

    http://www.national-lottery.co.uk/player/p/help/playinginstore/euromillions.ftl
    Living for tomorrow might mean that you survive the day after.
    It is always different this time. The only thing that is the same is the outcome.
    Portfolios are like personalities - one that is balanced is usually preferable.



  • Sceptic001
    Sceptic001 Posts: 1,111 Forumite
    OK, so the options seem to be:
    • £30k premium bonds yield £400 with average luck (mse calculator)
    • £30k in 3% instant access account yields £720 (no luck required)
    • £720 spent on lotto tickets yields approx £151 with average luck
      (12x£10 3-number prizes and a fifty/fifty chance of winning one £62 4-number prize). http://www.national-lottery.co.uk/player/p/help/playinginstore/lotto.ftl
    I guess I'll stick with my instant access account and the odd flutter on the football with Betfair...
  • VT82
    VT82 Posts: 1,091 Forumite
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    Sceptic001 wrote: »
    OK, so the options seem to be:
    • £30k premium bonds yield £400 with average luck (mse calculator)
    • £30k in 3% instant access account yields £720 (no luck required)
    • £720 spent on lotto tickets yields approx £151 with average luck
      (12x£10 3-number prizes and a fifty/fifty chance of winning one £62 4-number prize). http://www.national-lottery.co.uk/player/p/help/playinginstore/lotto.ftl
    I guess I'll stick with my instant access account and the odd flutter on the football with Betfair...
    Average luck is meaningless when discussing Premium Bonds and lottery. People invest in/play these for the chance of winning the big prize. The lottery pays out just over half the receipts as prizes, so saying you would win on average £151 with £720 of lottery tickets misses the point of why you would play the lottery over holding PB's.
  • Ark_Welder
    Ark_Welder Posts: 1,878 Forumite
    • £720 spent on lotto tickets yields approx £151 with average luck

    Perhaps more accurate to say: £720 spent on lotto tickets loses approx £569 with average luck
    Living for tomorrow might mean that you survive the day after.
    It is always different this time. The only thing that is the same is the outcome.
    Portfolios are like personalities - one that is balanced is usually preferable.



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