Anyone know about Paternity leave - when starting a new job?

bluenoseam

I get what Googlewhacker is driving at, even if in his wisdom he's worded it in a way which is a bit off the cuff (not like i'm guilty of doing that!) - he's pointing out the fact that Men have to be there for a period of time to qualify for a fraction of the length of leave, however this is where i tend to disagree, as a guy i'm not quite sure i'd like to go through labour and then be told "oh you're back at work in 6 months"! The feeding issue is a personal decision, PND doesn't happen to everyone neither does a C-section, so at best they could be used as guidelines, no one's suggesting that men should be treated as equals in terms of leave, but what i think he is trying to suggest is that there should be a much better correlation between paternity leave & maternity leave even if it comes from "opportioning" some towards the other.

Jarndyce

bluenoseam wrote: »

I get what Googlewhacker is driving at, even if in his wisdom he's worded it in a way which is a bit off the cuff (not like i'm guilty of doing that!) - he's pointing out the fact that Men have to be there for a period of time to qualify for a fraction of the length of leave, however this is where i tend to disagree, as a guy i'm not quite sure i'd like to go through labour and then be told "oh you're back at work in 6 months"! The feeding issue is a personal decision, PND doesn't happen to everyone neither does a C-section, so at best they could be used as guidelines, no one's suggesting that men should be treated as equals in terms of leave, but what i think he is trying to suggest is that there should be a much better correlation between paternity leave & maternity leave even if it comes from "opportioning" some towards the other.

That's exactly what they are suggesting.

clairec79

surreysaver wrote: »

You are entitled by law to time off when your partner goes into labour under the Time off for Dependants.

Do you have a link to that piece of legislation, would be handy to have. Thanks

surreysaver

clairec79 wrote: »

Do you have a link to that piece of legislation, would be handy to have. Thanks

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Employment/Employees/Timeoffandholidays/DG_10026555

What counts as an emergency?

If a dependant falls ill

If a dependant has been injured or assaulted

When a dependant is having a baby

To deal with an unexpected disruption or breakdown of care arrangements for a dependant


To deal with an unexpected incident involving your child during school hours


To deal with the death of a dependant

surreysaver

Jarndyce wrote: »

Oh please.

Doesn't quite sit with the claim in your signature, does it!

The definition of feminism, despite its name, is equality.

surreysaver

Jarndyce wrote: »

Are you seriously suggesting that men should have the same paternity benefits as women get maternity benefits?? :shocked:

Obviously women require more rights prior to, during and immediately after the birth. But a year of only the women being able to care for a child? Why does a man who has been employed for nine months have more rights than one who hasn't? Whereas a woman has rights regardless of her length of time with an employer.

What if the woman cannot stand being at home stuck with the baby and the man could

What if the woman earns more money than the man and it would make financial sense for him to stay at home

No doubt there are several other scenarios that I cannot think of at this time of day.

surreysaver

ringo_24601 wrote: »

There are biological reasons, why a woman may need more 'leave'
- less sleep, due to 'on demand' breast feeding

Not every woman breast feeds.

ringo_24601 wrote: »

- recuperation after cesarean section

6 weeks - not a year!

ringo_24601 wrote: »

- recovery from post-natal depression

Not all women get it - and some men do too.

ringo_24601 wrote: »

Also, you don't really need 2 people, full time, to look after a baby. You certainly do need one of them bringing in an income. I know that I couldn't afford to take 6 months statuary paternity pay, nor could most people.

Some people could afford it - and the woman can go to work while the man stays at home - I don't think both should take a year off!