Public Sector wages rising despite pay "freeze"

Percy1983

Really2 wrote: »

How can someone one year ahead of you become three years head of you?

Watch this:

I will use a basic scale of £17.5k, £18k, £18.5k, £19k

I will show the 2 employees side by side so the current system.

2008 £17.5k
2009 £18k £17.5k
2010 £18.5k £18k
2011 £19k £18.5k
2012 £19k £19k

So if one started a year earlier there wages are ahead for 3 years.

Now we will freeze the in 2009 for 3 years and then start moving again.

2008 £17.5k
2009 £18k £17.5k
2010 £18k £17.5k
2011 £18k £17.5k
2012 £18.5k £18k
2013 £19k £18.5k
2014 £19k £19k

Please tell me you can see the problem, the person who started a year later as earnt less for 5 years now, and the longer you freeze it the worse that gets.

Now the sacle is frozen so what was the promise of £19k 3 years earlier is still £19k which of course is worth less now.

So in my case I signed up based on a top of scale salary which would be attained it certain standards where met, as it is that top scale has been frozen (along with the whole scale) so as much as my salary has gone up due to contracted increments up the scale, the overal effect is my pay is frozen.

Please tell me this makes sense to you, I can but it any simplier.

Really2

Graham_Devon wrote: »

She's on new terms. Therefore you are both talking about different things. Stevie is talking about the old terms. You are talking about a new contract.

Jesus GD,

She was wage and scale frozen as of last year.

She is not on new terms yet. The new terms are for the pay decrease not the freezing of wages, scales and scale movements. Next.

Really2

Percy1983 wrote: »

Watch this:

I will use a basic scale of £17.5k, £18k, £18.5k, £19k

I will show the 2 employees side by side so the current system.

2008 £17.5k
2009 £18k £17.5k
2010 £18.5k £18k
2011 £19k £18.5k
2012 £19k £19k

So if one started a year earlier there wages are ahead for 3 years.

Now we will freeze the in 2009 for 3 years and then start moving again.

2008 £17.5k
2009 £18k £17.5k
2010 £18k £17.5k
2011 £18k £17.5k
2012 £18.5k £18k
2013 £19k £18.5k
2014 £19k £19k

Sorry you have just proved they are still one years pay increase in front of you not three?
EG when they hit the top of the scale in 2013 the other who starts a year later hits it in 2014.
One year later, and they started a year later???

Welcome to life?

Percy1983

Really2 wrote: »

Sorry you have just proved they are still one years pay increase in front of you not three?
EG when they hit the top of the scale in 2013 the other who starts a year later hits it in 2014.
One year later, and they started a year later???

Welcome to life?

So they are 1 year ahead for 5 years on a 3 year scale, does that add up to you?

Percy1983

Really2 wrote: »

Welcome to life?

You may want to pass that message on to your wife...

My 'real world' has lead me to going up a frozen pay scale (for 3 years), not ideal but it could be worse.

Really2

StevieJ wrote: »

Who is saying you are wrong, I don't work in the public sector,

I thought saying it was probably illegal was a hint at being wrong.;)

StevieJ

Really2 wrote: »

Jesus GD,

She was wage and scale frozen as of last year.

She is not on new terms yet. The new terms are for the pay decrease not the freezing of wages, scales and scale movements. Next.

Could be worse, you could be n Ireland :eek:

Circular 18/2010: Reduction of 10% in the pay rates and fixed term allowances
of persons to be recruited to certain direct entry grades to the Civil Service

http://www.publicjobs.ie/publicjobs/downloads/Circular_18_2010_Reduction_of_Pay_Rates.pdf

Really2

Percy1983 wrote: »

You may want to pass that message on to your wife...

We are aware of the current problems and excepted it straight away????

She is totally aware the county is screwed and that either she excepts the things going on or more lose their jobs.

StevieJ

Really2 wrote: »

I thought saying it was probably illegal was a hint at being wrong.;)

I did qualify by writing

but probably illegal (depending on the contract)

adouglasmhor

Really2 wrote: »

We are aware of the current problems and excepted it straight away????

She is totally aware the county is screwed and that either she excepts the things going on or more lose their jobs.

But did you accept it as well?