Best order in which to use these tyres to replace worn tyres?

jase1

mikey72 wrote: »

I've never done that either. But at least if I did, I could control it.
But the other way round, when someone pulls out in front of you, you slam on the brakes, and nothing happens as the front tyres are just sliding along, so you lift off the brakes.................

I'm still with the op here.

Once again I find myself half-way between two extremes of opinion and attacked from both sides....

mikey72

jase1 wrote: »

Once again I find myself half-way between two extremes of opinion and attacked from both sides....

Not an attack, just an opinion I've put into practice for as long as fwd cars have been around.

Strider590

Deepest tread on the front passengers side (you turn right more than you turn left, due to traffic islands).

dopester

Strider590 wrote: »

Deepest tread on the front passengers side (you turn right more than you turn left, due to traffic islands).

Thanks for that. Very very useful tip.

Also I've taken in the discussion of others on the thread, and have learnt a few things. There is some disagreement I see, but I'm considering a balance between all points of view.

I've never experienced losing the back, but as suggested, I'll replace the budget tyre at the back for the 8mm Goodyear, as there is already a 7mm Goodyear on the other rear corner. Assess the spare and perhaps swap it for the budget tyre.

I'm glad I asked the question now as it I think I've got an better outcome than I expected for my planning, and learned a few things.

Hammyman

From Popular Mechanics. Take note of the bit which says why its best to go head on into something....

"In dry, clear weather it really doesn't make much difference. But if the road is wet, the new, full-treaded tires are less likely to lose traction than the partly worn ones. If you're hauling ants down the road and come to a wet curve, the full-treaded tires on the rear will stay behind you, where they belong.

If the rear tires have less tread, there's a greater chance that they will slip, putting your rear bumper into the ditch. Okay, if the front tires skid, there's the chance you might go off the road, too--but at least it'll be headfirst, where your seatbelts and airbags offer more protection."

jase1

What I would say at this point is check the ages, tread patterns and model numbers of the tyres you have. Just because two tyres have Goodyear written on them doesn't mean they're going to behave in the same way; if they're totally different to each other it may not matter if you match the makes or not.

This is one reason I don't like the part-worn idea. If you have a Pirelli P7 on one side and a P6000 on the other, you may as well have a Toyo on one side and a Nankang on the other for all the benefit the matching brand-names is going to give you.

On the other hand, if you drive carefully you'll most likely get away without using a set order for the tyres. The real fun begins when you run any tyre much below 3mm.

jase1

Hammyman wrote: »

If the rear tires have less tread, there's a greater chance that they will slip, putting your rear bumper into the ditch. Okay, if the front tires skid, there's the chance you might go off the road, too--but at least it'll be headfirst, where your seatbelts and airbags offer more protection."

The last sentence raises a very good point.

Surely though the moral of the story is not to put yourself in this position in the first place, i.e.

1) Don't drive around with the worst sh*tty tyres you can buy with low tread;
2) Keep the rest of the car in good order;
3) Don't drive like a t*t.

I have experienced first-hand the effects of understeer though. In my case it was diesel oil on the road; the car would not respond to any changes in control, it simply ploughed on and went into the lamp-post head-on. On the one hand I lost control completely (bad), but on the other it did at least, as you say, stay moving forwards and I walked away with the only injury being a scratched nose from where the airbag hit me.

Tyres made basically no difference in the above incident but I've not let any tyre of mine dip below 3mm as a result since.

Hammyman

jase1 wrote: »

I have experienced first-hand the effects of understeer though. In my case it was diesel oil on the road; the car would not respond to any changes in control, it simply ploughed on and went into the lamp-post head-on. On the one hand I lost control completely (bad), but on the other it did at least, as you say, stay moving forwards and I walked away with the only injury being a scratched nose from where the airbag hit me.

Tyres made basically no difference in the above incident but I've not let any tyre of mine dip below 3mm as a result since.

I experience understeer a hell of a lot because I cane the living hell out of my car and take full advantage and then some of the excellent chassis on the terrifically excellent driving roads in my county . If it gets past a point of being reasonably acceptable, dipping the clutch brings the car back into line as does NOT using the brakes.

However I appreciate that yours was caused by diesel on the road and at that point, you become a passenger and nothing you can do will help you other than bracing for impact.

mikey72

Hammyman wrote: »

I experience understeer a hell of a lot because I cane the living hell out of my car and take full advantage and then some of the excellent chassis on the terrifically excellent driving roads in my county . If it gets past a point of being reasonably acceptable, dipping the clutch brings the car back into line as does NOT using the brakes.

In a 150,000 mile diesel Mondeo?