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Old economy 7 pre payment meter- to change or not

Comstock
Comstock Posts: 322 Forumite
I've recently moved into a flat with an Economy 7 meter from southern electric. The flat no longer has storage heaters.

When I phoned up to register the key to my name, they offered to change me straight over to a pre pay meter with no economy 7 on it, saying this would be cheaper.

Thing is, will it? I hardly use any electric as my hot water and heating are gas, I don't have a fridge and my cooking skills are best described as 'limited'.


This economy 7 meter doesn't seem to have a standing charge, which is good.


Would I be better just cancelling the appointment and keeping the meter?

NB I want to stay pre-pay.

Comments

  • spike7451
    spike7451 Posts: 6,944 Forumite
    Get the E7 meter out! I got the gas in Jan 2010 & what I didn't know is that the IS a 12p charge per day for using the E7 rate.I only found this out when I called the NIE up as my neighbor told me about the charge,seven months later! So I'd been paying around £3 a month for something I no longer had nor needed.
    With the E7 meter I was using around 75p a day in electric,without the meter it dropped to around 60p.
  • Premier_2
    Premier_2 Posts: 15,141 Forumite
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    Comstock wrote: »
    I've recently moved into a flat with an Economy 7 meter from southern electric. The flat no longer has storage heaters.

    When I phoned up to register the key to my name, they offered to change me straight over to a pre pay meter with no economy 7 on it, saying this would be cheaper.

    Thing is, will it? I hardly use any electric as my hot water and heating are gas, I don't have a fridge and my cooking skills are best described as 'limited'.


    This economy 7 meter doesn't seem to have a standing charge, which is good.


    Would I be better just cancelling the appointment and keeping the meter?

    NB I want to stay pre-pay.
    Use a comparison site to discover for yourself which will be cheaper.

    But you'll need to know your anticipated consumption and day/night split. Also you'll need to run the programme twice; once for E7, once for non-E7 and manually compare the annual costs it provides.

    Depending on supplier and region, the breakeven point for E7 is about 25% night usage (and since 7/24 is 29%, that may well be achievable). However the numbers can vary tremendously from <0% (yes E7 can sometimes be cheaper no matter what night usage you have, although not sure if that is currently the case for any PPM tariff) to >45% night usage; hence use a comparison site :)
    "Now to trolling as a concept. .... Personally, I've always found it a little sad that people choose to spend such a large proportion of their lives in this way but they do, and we have to deal with it." - MSE Forum Manager 6th July 2010
  • Comstock
    Comstock Posts: 322 Forumite
    Well I don't know if I've done the right thing or not. I've cancelled the appointment for the all encompasing 'family reasons' :D after looking at the meter again

    It gives me the following information

    Rate 1: 15.94p/kwH
    Rate 2: 5.15p KwH

    Crucially it says charge per week=0

    Does this mean no standing charge???

    At best I can't see me being anything more than marginally worse off keeping the meter. If someone comes along and tells me I've just made the biggest mistake of my life, I can always re book the appointment
  • Mugget
    Mugget Posts: 37 Forumite
    You will be paying a standingcharge whether its included in your usage payments or as a daily rate. Everyone has to pay a standingcharge no matter what tariff you are on.
  • mattcanary
    mattcanary Posts: 4,420 Forumite
    edited 24 August 2011 at 4:52AM
    No - your supplier do not charge standing-charge on prepayment meters.

    I would suggest that if you don't have storage heaters it is best to be on a single-rate tariff. You pay the same price for every unit of electricity you use on this tariff. The alternative is a day & night (or E7 tariff). Here you pay less for electric used for 7 hours during the night (around 12.00am -7.001m although the times can vary). However, you would pay more for every unit of electricity consumed outside of these hours on the E7 tariff compared to a single rate tariff.

    A few customers would benefit by having an E7 meter even if they don't have storage heaters (dependant upon what proportion of their total electricity usage is during the 7 hours of (much) cheaper electric.)

    When you have a prepayment meter, I believe it can be reprogrammed by the call-centre to a single rate tariff if required. The meter does not have to be changed!
  • eurmalian
    eurmalian Posts: 288 Forumite
    Comstock wrote: »
    Thing is, will it? I hardly use any electric as my hot water and heating are gas, I don't have a fridge and my cooking skills are best described as 'limited'.

    How about other electrical devices though? TV?, Computers?, Washing Machine? They all use a fair bit of electricity.

    On the plus side, if your supplier isn't charging a standing charge for the E7 meter, the odds are that they won't charge one on single rate meters either.
    I am an employee of British Gas, however the views expressed on this post are mine and do not necessarily reflect the views of Centrica, its subsidiaries or affiliated companies.
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