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Changing the date of vacating the property (tenancy)

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  • It might soften the blow to your landlord somewhat if you offer to pay the rent until October. Have you thought about offering him that?
  • ic
    ic Posts: 3,410 Forumite
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    And what does your solicitor have to say on the matter? Is he even aware of the change in move in date?
  • dodger1
    dodger1 Posts: 4,579 Forumite
    Ms_Sophia wrote: »
    He is not incurring any extra costs cause he arranges the viewings via gumtree, doesn't pay any agency or anything like this.

    Also, why would I have to do everything by the book, if he has not been doing so? He didn't protect our deposit, he never provided us with any electrical or gas certificate. He also never informed his bank that he's letting this apartment - didn't get a consent to let or change into a BTL mortgage. Basically he's hiding the fact he's letting this apartment. Am pretty sure he's not paying any taxes from this addit. income either. So if we have to do everything acc. to the law, then maybe should we inform his bank he's been letting his 'residential' flat?

    Always amuses me when a poster doesn't like the responses so suddenly adds extra information to boost their case.
    It's someone else's fault.
  • Ms_Sophia
    Ms_Sophia Posts: 182 Forumite
    dodger1 wrote: »
    Always amuses me when a poster doesn't like the responses so suddenly adds extra information to boost their case.

    I didn't want to unload all the info I had into the 1st post. Just trying to keep the opening post concise and to the point, makes sense, doesn't it? :)
    Then, when others post their questions/opinions/comments, then it makes sense to mention smth else, as a response to those comments. There's nothing that much amusing in this :)
  • RobertoMoir
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    Ms_Sophia wrote: »
    The tenancy contract is signed first, then a landlord is supposed to protect the deposit. So it's not possible to refuse to sign a contract because the deposit is not protected yet. He said he'd protect it, and it was mentioned in the contract, so we signed the contract. After that we followed up several times, but to no avail.

    Agree, his financial affairs is his business. But he wasn't doing everything by the book even as a landlord, so we've had to compromise a lot. That was my point - if we've had to compromise a lot with him, he could as well compromise now.

    So what you're saying is that two wrongs do make a right as far as you're concerned.

    While there is little your LL can legally do to get you out of the house in time, the morally right thing for you to do would be to move out and make other arrangements - possibly with the builders who have let you down. Carrying on about "ah but he didn't do something by the book 3 years ago" doesn't alter that.
    If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything
  • Ms_Sophia
    Ms_Sophia Posts: 182 Forumite
    it's not about what "he didn't do right 3 years ago". Because he didn't protect our deposit, I can still go to court now and he'll be fined for that. I haven't done it cause I didn't want to create any hassle for him - but if he wants to be strict about what we have to do as tenants, I can be strict about what he has to do as a LL.
  • dodger1
    dodger1 Posts: 4,579 Forumite
    Ms_Sophia wrote: »
    I didn't want to unload all the info I had into the 1st post. Just trying to keep the opening post concise and to the point, makes sense, doesn't it? :)
    Then, when others post their questions/opinions/comments, then it makes sense to mention smth else, as a response to those comments. There's nothing that much amusing in this :)

    I was simply making the point that this is what posters do when they get comments they don't like which always does amuse me. The extra information you gave was just one short paragraph which wouldn't have effected your opening post.
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  • ic
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    Ms_Sophia wrote: »
    it's not about what "he didn't do right 3 years ago". Because he didn't protect our deposit, I can still go to court now and he'll be fined for that. I haven't done it cause I didn't want to create any hassle for him - but if he wants to be strict about what we have to do as tenants, I can be strict about what he has to do as a LL.

    Is it really worth the stress of threatening court when you've the stress of moving. Such threats won't help you and would take a long time to come to court, and will involve costs (you'd need to employ a solicitor to act on your behalf and write formally to your landlord).

    What does your solicitor say you should / can do? What of the option of putting your stuff in short term storage and moving in with family or friends?

    You seem to be mounting everything against your landlord in a red mist, when there are other options available.
  • Ms_Sophia
    Ms_Sophia Posts: 182 Forumite
    Thanks for your advise, ic. However I wouldn't be moving out before our completion day. I realize this would make things more complicated to my LL and again, we apologized to him and offered him some options. But we have no family here or friends with extra rooms, so it's not an option.
    I'm not mounting anything against my LL - I haven't mentioned anything of the above to him. I'm just exploring different options now and thinking about plans B, C etc. I'm trying to push the developer for an earlier completion date as well.

    What is a bit amusing to me is that a lot of people do so much worse things in the LL/tenant situations - not paying rent for months, making their LLs to go thru courts/bailiffs to evict them, leave their flats in awful state etc., also some LLs enter properties when tenants are absent and without their consent or sell their stuff when they are not in the apartment for a week (just a couple of other threads here) - but it doesn't seem to create such a backlash like my thread...
  • ic
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    Maybe so, but just because other people do these things doesn't mean you should. You're using the same reasoning as rioters were using to smash up shops the other week - "if they can do it, why shouldn't I?" If your landlord takes you to the courts, pointing at this thread or any other won't justify your actions.

    You still haven't said what your solicitor has to say on the matter - I repeat again, it is the developer / builder of your new home that has put you in this position - not the landlord. What is the reason for the completion date slipping?
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