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pollyjar
pollyjar Posts: 19 Forumite
To day received a cold call, which seemed like it was from Southern Electric. Having quizzed them it was not.
They said they were going to post to me an item equipment (associated power factor correction, say the web site) that would cost £99.

The web site claims saving on electric "For a typical household using say £40.00 of electricity per month this could save up to £6.00 per month, meaning that it would pay for it's self in less than year", which is interesting, if true.
I have telephoned Southern Electric and they do not know of them.

Dose any one know of them? dose the product work?

If its true would have expected Martin:money: to interested.

Please advise

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  • Tangible
    Tangible Posts: 219 Forumite
    edited 12 August 2011 at 7:15PM
    It's good if it's intended for amusement purposes only.

    The site states

    "Plug this device into a wall socket, not an extension cord or multiple socket and switch on the unit."

    Eh voila - you save up to 35% on your bill.

    The company has existed less than a year and hasn't submitted accounts.

    Further explanation includes

    "The EPS 188 works by improving the efficiency of your house-hold appliances and circuits. It does this by using a combination of filtration and correction techniques."

    ... thereby invalidating any warranty or guarantee you have on your appliances. He has no competition in the electrical field but plenty when it comes to comedy.

    It's discussed in another thread and the general opinion is that it's funnier than it is effective, and it's not that funny.

    The previous threads date as far back as 2006 and 2008. It's not even a new joke.

    I'm not mocking you pollyjar, but the person making the offer.

    I love this on the website

    "Please note that the EPS 188 products available are ex-demonstration models. As with most demonstration models packaging is not always included."

    It would be cruel to comment further though I am intrigued as to how you demonstrate something that only needs plugging in to a socket, and it can't be very exciting to watch.
    Never ever give your card details to anyone over the phone, and check the reputation of any company you do intend to give them to.
  • Cardew
    Cardew Posts: 29,064 Forumite
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    Tangible wrote: »
    Eh voila - you save up to 35% on your bill.

    Send me £1,000 and I will guarantee you will earn up to 45% interest.

    Power correction devices have no effect on domestic household bills!!!
  • reminds me of those reflective radiator panels when used in a house with cavity wall insualtion....
  • Tangible
    Tangible Posts: 219 Forumite
    edited 12 August 2011 at 8:53PM
    Even better MSE pals.

    Anyone care to comment on this gem from the website ?

    "For it to work optimally, it should be installed as close as possible to the point of entry of your electricity supply so as to detect all loads before the meter and adjust the power factor accordingly."

    Having survived three mains electric shocks I would be wary of following these instructions for legal and safety reasons, unless I'm misinterpreting something, which is a worry in itself that they could be open to misinterpretation at all.
    Never ever give your card details to anyone over the phone, and check the reputation of any company you do intend to give them to.
  • Cardew
    Cardew Posts: 29,064 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Rampant Recycler
    It really isn't possible to explain to a layman why these Power factor correction devices don't work in a domestic property as it requires a good grounding in electrical theory to understand.

    The simplest way is to state the we are all charged for the kWh(i.e. electrical units) we consume and that is what our electricity meters measure, and power factor correction won't help.

    Large industrial concerns are not charged in kWh, and power factor correction is important in keeping their bills to a minimum. However it takes a lot more than these devices to achieve that goal.

    So like all scams it can be said that power factor correction can save money - but not in domestic situations.

    Google 'power factor correction scams' and you will get loads of technical explanations.

    P.S.
    Interfering with your electricity supply before the meter is very useful if you want to grow lots of those nice green plants that give off a pungent smell and policemen find interesting!
  • Plushchris
    Plushchris Posts: 3,592 Forumite
    Cardew wrote: »

    P.S.
    Interfering with your electricity supply before the meter is very useful if you want to grow lots of those nice green plants that give off a pungent smell and policemen find interesting!

    Voice of experience.. ;)
    Missing Tesco R&R since Feb '07 :A & now a "Tesco veteran" apparently! ;)
  • Cardew
    Cardew Posts: 29,064 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Rampant Recycler
    Plushchris wrote: »
    Voice of experience.. ;)

    Nah, prefer to grow poppies and cocoa plants - they look prettier
  • macman
    macman Posts: 53,129 Forumite
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    If they're going to post it to you anyway, and then want you to pay £99, I'd accept and say that you'll happily pay for it once it's installed and proven to make the savings...
    They may then be less keen to have you as a customer.
    No free lunch, and no free laptop ;)
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