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  • geordie_joe
    geordie_joe Posts: 9,112 Forumite
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    Ya read post 10 and look at the links to MSM news articles and you will see everything you didn't want to x

    Actually I've already done that and didn't see any evidence.

    In post 10 you say

    "Let us not too quickly forget the case of Tony Allen, the disgraced former head of Oldham Trading Standards who was sacked after it was proved he lied, manufactured evidence and fabricated charges even under oath in a Crown Court."

    But the links you supplied do not show any evidence of that.

    You also go on to say

    "Trading Standards manufactured thousands of false claims against a kitchen maker and used these fake complaints to try and get the company closed down."

    Yet present no evidence of it.

    You also say

    "When the judge dismissed the case he nearly sent the head of Trading Standards to prison - bet you didn't hear much about that in the news"

    Yet present no evidence.

    And last time I looked, a judge does not have the power to send someone to prison for not presenting enough evidence to get a conviction.

    Nor has he/she the authority to send someone to prison just because he does not believe the evidence, of does not consider it reliable.


    I think you are seeing just what you want to see, and not actually what is there.
  • Actually I've already done that and didn't see any evidence.
    There is clearly evidence of everything I have said, and I was also in the court room at the time (hence why I know so much about it).

    These news stories, and the many more Google will show you using it's "news search" feature, confirm everything I've said. You're simply choosing to ignore them.
    In post 10 you say
    "Let us not too quickly forget the case of Tony Allen, the disgraced former head of Oldham Trading Standards who was sacked after it was proved he lied, manufactured evidence and fabricated charges even under oath in a Crown Court."
    In the links provided which you chose to ignore, I quote:
    BBC_News wrote:
    Mr Allen has been dismissed
    a member of staff has been dismissed from the council
    MEN wrote:
    who was later discovered to have falsified
    MEN wrote:
    He found no evidence that Mr Miller had defrauded customers
    MEN wrote:
    The trading standards boss admitted in court it was his ‘desire’ to close the company down, contradicting his earlier evidence
    MEN wrote:
    He manufactured a dragon and that was [Vance Miller]

    I could go on for quite some time but you would probably choose to ignore that too.

    But the links you supplied do not show any evidence of that.
    "Trading Standards manufactured thousands of false claims against a kitchen maker and used these fake complaints to try and get the company closed down."
    Yet present no evidence of it.
    If you took the time to look and chose not to ignore what the news reports said you would see most clearly that everything I've said is repeated.

    You also say
    "When the judge dismissed the case he nearly sent the head of Trading Standards to prison - bet you didn't hear much about that in the news"
    Yet present no evidence.
    I was in the court room, you're not allowed to film or record. The judge was NOT at all happy about Mr Allan's conduct and Mr Allan was very lucky that the judge only threw out the case rather than imprison him for doing all of the things said above and repeated all over the web in a great many news articles.
    And last time I looked, a judge does not have the power to send someone to prison for not presenting enough evidence to get a conviction.
    Correct. But that's not what happened and you know it. He was falsifying evidence and was on a "personal vendetta" (vexatious litigation). That CAN get you sent to prison. Well, last time I looked.

    Clearly you have no interest in the truth and have very selective eyesight ;)

    I wonder how you seem to think that myself being present in the court room and the various reputable media outlets who reported on this issue know less about what happened than you do?

    Troll.
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