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MSE News: Supermarkets fined millions for price fixing

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  • thor
    thor Posts: 5,505 Forumite
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    I hope Tesco drag them through the courts and rip the core out of them and the OFT ends up being dismantled. Tesco may be a large company but they have every right to justice and not to be the victim of government lies.
    So if Tesco do take it to court and lose, will you still be apologising for them? or perhaps conveniently forget that it ever happened?
  • thor wrote: »
    So if Tesco do take it to court and lose, will you still be apologising for them? or perhaps conveniently forget that it ever happened?
    In the time you've spent reading this Tesco has probably made more in profit than you will ever earn in your life time.

    That's not an insult, but something to think about to put this in to perspective. £10m for Tesco is absolutely nothing at all. To a company that makes so much money so easily it's the equivalent of pennies in your wallet.

    So why would they want to fight this? If they know they're in the wrong then it seems pointless to add legal fees on top of it because they know they will lose anyway and just have to pay more in total.

    The only logical conclusion for them wanting to fight it seems to be nothing at all to do with the money, so it's likely the protection of their brand in the eyes of the consumer.

    But as you yourself said, if they lost (which they would do it they were in the wrong) then it would of made things worse for their brand, and they still would have had legal fees on top of the original fine - so again the situation is worse for them.

    The only possible logical conclusion I can see is that they're not actually up to any mischief at all because their response just isn't the response common sense dictates when you've been caught out doing something bad.

    As I demonstrated in my post previous, even the head of a Trading Standards branch is the worst type of corrupt criminal. Why do you think the Office of Fair Trading is fair? Or even honest? And what of this secret evidence and covert consultation periods?

    When the facts don't add up and there's strangeness going on, the very last thing we should be doing is repeating government rhetoric and chanting in unison "Tesco is guilty, Tesco is guilty".

    Innocent until proven guilty, and anybody is yet to see any proof of guilt or transparency in this investigation.
    :doh:
  • JAG
    JAG Posts: 1,304 Forumite
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    The only possible logical conclusion I can see is that they're not actually up to any mischief at all because their response just isn't the response common sense dictates when you've been caught out doing something bad.

    Or they believe that the evidence against them is not sufficent for them to be found guilty. It doesn't mean they are not guilty ;)
  • geordie_joe
    geordie_joe Posts: 9,112 Forumite
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    Innocent until proven guilty, and anybody is yet to see any proof of guilt or transparency in this investigation.
    :doh:

    Actually, I think you'll find that is presumed to be innocent until proven guilty.

    You can be guilty and be presumed to be innocent until the jury pronounce you guilty.

    In fact, every body who has ever been found guilty by a jury has been presumed to be innocent up until the verdict is announced.
  • JAG wrote: »
    Or they believe that the evidence against them is not sufficent for them to be found guilty. It doesn't mean they are not guilty ;)
    Actually, I think you'll find that is presumed to be innocent until proven guilty.

    You can be guilty and be presumed to be innocent until the jury pronounce you guilty.

    In fact, every body who has ever been found guilty by a jury has been presumed to be innocent up until the verdict is announced.

    I think you're both playing on semantics and being appologistic for government propaganda instead of considering the simple logic to the situation. I suppose you both still believe any day now we'll find the "45 minute WMDs" in Iraq?

    I have yet to see any evidence that the Office of Fair Trading is fair, or Trading Standards has standards.
  • JAG
    JAG Posts: 1,304 Forumite
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    I suppose you both still believe any day now we'll find the "45 minute WMDs" in Iraq?

    Of course we will :D

    Just like we never really landed on the moon, and Elvis is still alive...
  • I suppose you both still believe any day now we'll find the "45 minute WMDs" in Iraq?
    JAG wrote: »
    Of course we will
    The timing couldn't have been more perfect. In today's DM...

    Shaming of our spooks: MI6 produced bogus Iraq war evidence under pressure from Downing Street

    The exhausted secret intelligence officer was heading home after a heavy session analysing reports from Iraq. As he stepped out through the high-security air-lock exit from MI6’s grand headquarters beside the Thames in London, a newspaper-seller’s placard caught his eye — ‘45 minutes from attack,’ it proclaimed.

    Alarm bells rang in his head. It was September 2002, and Prime Minister Tony Blair had that day unveiled with great fanfare the government’s dossier detailing Saddam Hussein’s arsenal of weapons of mass destruction, as a justification for going to war.


    So yeah, still expect the 45 minute WMDs? I do feel sorry for people who believe a word any government ever says. It must simply be awful to be that gullible.

    Source http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2025512/MI6-pressure-Blair-Campbell-produced-bogus-Iraq-war-evidence.html
  • JAG
    JAG Posts: 1,304 Forumite
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    So yeah, still expect the 45 minute WMDs? I do feel sorry for people who believe a word any government ever says. It must simply be awful to be that gullible.

    I was being sarcastic.

    But back on topic both my point and yours is valid.

    Tesco will want to protect their business so will appeal if they haven't done any price fixing, but will also appeal even if they have but their legal team think the evidence against them isn't strong enough to be found guilty.
  • geordie_joe
    geordie_joe Posts: 9,112 Forumite
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    I have yet to see any evidence that the Office of Fair Trading is fair, or Trading Standards has standards.

    And I have yet to see any evidence that the Office of Fair Trading is unfair, or Trading Standards has no standards.

    I guess some people just see what they want to see.
  • And I have yet to see any evidence that the Office of Fair Trading is unfair, or Trading Standards has no standards.

    I guess some people just see what they want to see.
    Ya read post 10 and look at the links to MSM news articles and you will see everything you didn't want to x
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