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Less than 60yrs left on lease of house - thinking of selling - help!

Hi Im trying to get some advice for my parents.

They have recently decided to put the family home up for sale, all going well till today, when they had the first valuation, at £134,950. Good sum but they were informed that with just 57yrs left on the lease they may have trouble selling it.

They really arent in a position to spend £000's on the freehold and would like to just extend.

Questions are -

Do they have to?
Will they sell if they dont?
And if they go for extension, what are the likely costs going to be?

They were told that they should contact their freeholder, send a cheque for an unknown amount! and then they will get the figure back they have to pay???

Any help greatly appreciated.
Debt at LBM - £11,505
Debt 2011 = [STRIKE]8K[/STRIKE] £7760 - DF in July 2013
DMP Paddle no. 1 Sealed Pot No. 1375
Grocery Challenge Aug £418.31/£450 Sept £ /£450
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  • GDB2222
    GDB2222 Posts: 26,344 Forumite
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    Yes, if they extend the lease, they'll get much more than it costs them. There might be some half-way house where they start the lease extension process now, but leave actually paying for it until nearer a sale.

    They should get a surveyor, not an estate agent, to advise them on the lease extension and negotiate a price.
    No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?
  • nataz
    nataz Posts: 435 Forumite
    Sorry, not sure what you mean by 'they'll get more than it costs them' ? Sorry if a bit dim this morning.
    Debt at LBM - £11,505
    Debt 2011 = [STRIKE]8K[/STRIKE] £7760 - DF in July 2013
    DMP Paddle no. 1 Sealed Pot No. 1375
    Grocery Challenge Aug £418.31/£450 Sept £ /£450
  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    Without the lease ext the value of teh house is probably £40 or 50k below the valuation figure. Extending the lease should cost considerably less.
  • nataz
    nataz Posts: 435 Forumite
    Thanks.

    OK whats the next step, do we need to contact the freeholder direct or a surveyor? Really not sure where to start.
    Debt at LBM - £11,505
    Debt 2011 = [STRIKE]8K[/STRIKE] £7760 - DF in July 2013
    DMP Paddle no. 1 Sealed Pot No. 1375
    Grocery Challenge Aug £418.31/£450 Sept £ /£450
  • GDB2222
    GDB2222 Posts: 26,344 Forumite
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    Use a surveyor who has done this sort of work many times before.
    No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?
  • nataz
    nataz Posts: 435 Forumite
    Are they likely to ask for money up front?
    Debt at LBM - £11,505
    Debt 2011 = [STRIKE]8K[/STRIKE] £7760 - DF in July 2013
    DMP Paddle no. 1 Sealed Pot No. 1375
    Grocery Challenge Aug £418.31/£450 Sept £ /£450
  • kingstreet
    kingstreet Posts: 39,297 Forumite
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    I recently conducted something similar for a client whose purchase had 56 years left to run. By our calculations, houses which were being sold with the freehold were commanding approximately £40k more than the leasehold equivalent.

    There were still approximately twenty lenders left available to us, as the minimum appears to be mortgage term, plus thirty years. So a 25 year mortgage would just fit a 55 year lease.

    They purchased the property with a mortgage from Abbey and will look at purchasing the freehold in two years for anything upto £15k. This is what's been indicated as the likely cost by the surveyor.
    I am a mortgage broker. You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a Mortgage Adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice. Please do not send PMs asking for one-to-one-advice, or representation.
  • GDB2222
    GDB2222 Posts: 26,344 Forumite
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    So, in that particular case, Kingstreet, the vendors could have sold for around £40k more if they had bought the freehold for £15k. Have I got that right?

    And, Natas, yes the surveyors will want paying for their work. Why not ask around for fee estimates.
    No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?
  • kingstreet
    kingstreet Posts: 39,297 Forumite
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    GDB2222 wrote: »
    So, in that particular case, Kingstreet, the vendors could have sold for around £40k more if they had bought the freehold for £15k. Have I got that right?

    Yup. As part of our investigations, we looked at which properties in the street had been sold with the freehold and established the price differential. We then spoke to the surveyor who carried out the valuation and found out he'd experienced a freehold purchase on the same development and the price had been agreed at £15k + legal costs.

    The vendor had done nothing to establish the cost of the freehold and we were happy to buy for the lower price and look at purchasing after seeing out the two year post-purchase period.
    I am a mortgage broker. You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a Mortgage Adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice. Please do not send PMs asking for one-to-one-advice, or representation.
  • nataz
    nataz Posts: 435 Forumite
    Just spoke to mum and the freeholders have said 4k for freehold and 2800k for 125 yrs extension. She's getting quotes so will see what happens

    Is ve amazed at 40k extra... houses only sell for 130-5k anyway :)
    Debt at LBM - £11,505
    Debt 2011 = [STRIKE]8K[/STRIKE] £7760 - DF in July 2013
    DMP Paddle no. 1 Sealed Pot No. 1375
    Grocery Challenge Aug £418.31/£450 Sept £ /£450
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