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London riots: If you listen carefully
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You were scared?
I'm rather confused by this as I went to uni in Norwich and am a frequent visitor, and despite closing time being fairly lively (in particular along Prince of Wales' Road) I can't say I've ever been scared.
and as a 24 year old women ive never been scared walking through norwich at night
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If you're selling newspapers and a riot arrives and it hasn't occured to you to get the hell out of there by the time the police arrive (usually 30 minutes or so later) you deserve to be shot for gross stupidity.
... but what if you're unemployed and selling that 'Bigger Shoe' magazine that these abominable people try to sell? Surely they could simply join in.0 -
Never mind, perhaps somebody else got the point.If you're selling newspapers and a riot arrives and it hasn't occured to you to get the hell out of there by the time the police arrive (usually 30 minutes or so later) you deserve to be shot for gross stupidity."It will take, five, 10, 15 years to get back to where we need to be. But it's no longer the individual banks that are in the wrong, it's the banking industry as a whole." - Steven Cooper, head of personal and business banking at Barclays, talking to Martin Lewis0 -
A BBC news reporter finally realised this morning that we have in Britain "an underclass which until now has been largely hidden from view".Petty and PR-oriented feel good stories like this do nothing to hide the dark underbelly of British society - the barely suppressed anger, the fear, the herd mentality, the selfishness.
But as Supernanny keeps pointing out, the grown-ups are supposed to be in charge. Blaming the kids (of whatever age) for behaving like kids just isnt helpful.
Yes, there are many inadequate people. There always were, even in the good old days when children were raised by the rod. But the choice is between putting them down and looking after them. Demanding that they change isn't going to work. Despising them doesn't help either.
So far I can't think of one thing the authorities have said or done that isn't destined to make things worse."It will take, five, 10, 15 years to get back to where we need to be. But it's no longer the individual banks that are in the wrong, it's the banking industry as a whole." - Steven Cooper, head of personal and business banking at Barclays, talking to Martin Lewis0 -
A BBC news reporter finally realised this morning that we have in Britain "an underclass which until now has been largely hidden from view".
But as Supernanny keeps pointing out, the grown-ups are supposed to be in charge. Blaming the kids (of whatever age) for behaving like kids just isnt helpful.
Yes, there are many inadequate people. There always were, even in the good old days when children were raised by the rod. But the choice is between putting them down and looking after them. Demanding that they change isn't going to work. Despising them doesn't help either.
So far I can't think of one thing the authorities have said or done that isn't destined to make things worse.
So a BBC reporter thinks this underclass has until now been hidden from view, huh? Doesn't that tell you a story in its own right. For anyone who isn't a middle class, pseudo-intellectual living in St Johns Effing Wood, the underclass has been all too visible for all too long.
Seriously, you couldn't make it up.
What would you suggest we do with this underclass, precisely? Give them more benefits, so they are further disenfranchised and can spend more on lotto tickets and speed?0 -
But that's just what our rulers and "opinion-formers" are. One half doesn't know how the other half lives to a degree that I think is unprecedented in history. The middle classes have raised their income differential to the point where they can now live their whole lives in environments that the poor are priced out of, if they like.For anyone who isn't a middle class, pseudo-intellectual living in St Johns Effing Wood"It will take, five, 10, 15 years to get back to where we need to be. But it's no longer the individual banks that are in the wrong, it's the banking industry as a whole." - Steven Cooper, head of personal and business banking at Barclays, talking to Martin Lewis0 -
How does your argument fit in with the fact that many of the rioters were using Blackberries to organise themselves? They're hardly a tool of the underclass, are they? Plus, it seems that a fair percentage of those who have been arrested and named are teachers, university lecturers, students etc - the very definition of middle class life. Are they the new underclass, or are they cynical chancers? You decide.0
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But that's just what our rulers and "opinion-formers" are. One half doesn't know how the other half lives to a degree that I think is unprecedented in history. The middle classes have raised their income differential to the point where they can now live their whole lives in environments that the poor are priced out of, if they like.
True, they used to visit them now and again :eek:
'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher0 -
I certainly see this underclass everyday, I vote for it being legal to shoot whenever I like.Have my first business premises (+4th business) 01/11/2017
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