London riots: If you listen carefully

StevieJ

Percy1983 wrote: »

As much as I would love to agree, I am spotting patterns in footage and the populations of other areas where it is all kicking off.

With that I do expect Oldham to join in any time now, there just a bit slow up here.

Nothing to rob.

pqrdef

Chavette interviewed by BBC producer: "We're just showing we can do what we like".
"But why are you destroying businesses in your own community?"
"They're rich people"

Class-war this time round, not race.

Uncomprehending BBC reporter says you wouldn't expect rioting in a place like this, and lists a string of designer shops. But when the unemployed can't afford anything in any of the shops, or the beer in the pubs or the coffee in the cafes, and aren't catered for in "their own community", maybe we should expect riots. Maybe that's not how a community is supposed to work.

Occams_Razor_2

ruggedtoast wrote: »

you can hear the beginnings of a stampede of 'young professionals' bailing out of 'vibrant' areas. For sale boards going up, letters of two months notice being hammered out.

Suddenly a 90 minute commute on the 07.13 doesnt seem like such a bad idea?

I wonder what the effect will be on London's housing costs. I would imagine these areas will fall in value considerably now, even the most committed Guardian lovey has to be averse to being burned in their bed at night in a post code they know the police and fire brigade wont respond to.

Its a shame because it will mark a significant reversal in race integration and the beginning of further ghettoisation of certain ethnic groups.

funny all I can hear is the sound of a deluded wonk, tapping on his keyboard from his mum's basement.

nice work :T

the_flying_pig

London does, of course, have many tens of thousands of affluent people [roughly] aged about 30 onwards who go through that whole thought experiment of choosing between:

(1) the home counties, whose primary advantages are cheaper housing and basically not being around poor people [which has benefits in terms of the quality of state schools & general safety for children]; and
(2) London, whose primary advantages are short/cheap commutes and being an interesting area.

I'm kind of in this position myself [other than perhaps the affluent bit].

The news over the last couple of days will no doubt push a few people who were undecided towards option (1), of course it will. But suggestions of a "stampede" are a bit fanciful really.

olly300

the_flying_pig wrote: »

London does, of course, have many tens of thousands of affluent people [roughly] aged about 30 onwards who go through that whole thought experiment of choosing between:

(1) the home counties, whose primary advantages are cheaper housing and basically not being around poor people [which has benefits in terms of the quality of state schools & general safety for children]; and
(2) London, whose primary advantages are short/cheap commutes and being an interesting area.

I'm kind of in this position myself [other than perhaps the affluent bit].

The news over the last couple of days will no doubt push a few people who were undecided towards option (1), of course it will. But suggestions of a "stampede" are a bit fanciful really.

It depends also whether you have or want to have children in the near future.

Some of my mates have been caught out and now can't sell.

They had a choice of 1 and 2 and chose 2 without looking at the schools in the area.

I did politely warn them.

des_cartes

ruggedtoast wrote: »

you can hear the beginnings of a stampede of 'young professionals' bailing out of 'vibrant' areas. For sale boards going up, letters of two months notice being hammered out.

Suddenly a 90 minute commute on the 07.13 doesnt seem like such a bad idea?

I wonder what the effect will be on London's housing costs. I would imagine these areas will fall in value considerably now, even the most committed Guardian lovey has to be averse to being burned in their bed at night in a post code they know the police and fire brigade wont respond to.

Its a shame because it will mark a significant reversal in race integration and the beginning of further ghettoisation of certain ethnic groups.

I wonder if the BBC will be running repeats of homes under the hammer in a couple of years time? You know, the onesw where Lucy is viewing a one bed basement flat in edmonton , guide price 250k:rotfl:. In 2 years time giving a London property away will be difficult. London is toast, burnt toast.

heathcote123

pqrdef wrote: »

Chavette interviewed by BBC producer: "We're just showing we can do what we like".
"But why are you destroying businesses in your own community?"
"They're rich people"

Class-war this time round, not race.

Uncomprehending BBC reporter says you wouldn't expect rioting in a place like this, and lists a string of designer shops. But when the unemployed can't afford anything in any of the shops, or the beer in the pubs or the coffee in the cafes, and aren't catered for in "their own community", maybe we should expect riots. Maybe that's not how a community is supposed to work.

Not really sure the word of a young lady who probably has problems tieing her shoelaces unaided resolves this.

The problem is these young people thinking they are untouchable - the UK policing & political system has bent over backwards to accomodate these 'cultures' - to the point they think they can do whatever they like.

There is no better place to be in the UK for employment than london, any young person with half a brain and a little determination will get a job in London.

Percy1983

Well it happening in Manchester now, right where I was earlier in the day.

Valli

jonnyboi1982 wrote: »

Here's an idea. Lets make prisons horrible places to be and then people may actually not break the law and behave like idiots.

What a fantastic idea - because, of course, when the prisons were foul and unpleasant they were empty - right?

And when the death penalty was a possibility no-one committed murder in case they were caught and sentenced to death...

:rotfl::rotfl:

toadyfrog

When I was a kid we had borstal and you were made to feel so frighten of ending up there you was too scared to get in trouble, now they have centres where the trouble kids are spoken to and have counselling or day trips to theme parks. also you were scared that if you did do anything wrong neighbours would tell your parents. Now no-one knows or speaks to their neighbours and if you did tell a parent you probably would get abuse from then.