Calling all primary school teachers - summer reading for year one

jellyhead

milliebear00001 wrote: »

I teach the Victorians every year and just had to ask my 7 year old what hokey pokey is! (She's just done the Victorians in Y2).

In the 'fun facts' here http://www.bbc.co.uk/schools/primaryhistory/victorian_britain/victorian_schools/ it calls the ice cream man the 'hokey pokey man' so that's probably what he told me - I had a headache One of the flavours the one we bought from sold was hokey pokey, I think it was caramel. We all had mint choc chip though, and it wasn't green :j

jellyhead

Sorry efrieze for going off at a tangent! It's sort of relevant to the curriculum though, and I'm sure your daughter would love to visit somewhere that had a victorian classroom with slates, etc.

My son seemed so thrilled by the topic that I'm going to take him to a local hall that has victorian servants quarters, a schoolroom etc. that we haven't been to since he was in nursery (and he's forgotten about).

I don't know if everywhere teaches the victorians in year 1. Milliebear says year 2 at her school. It might be both years here. It's still interesting though, and she sounds like a she'd enjoy it anyway.

milliebear00001

jellyhead wrote: »

Sorry efrieze for going off at a tangent! It's sort of relevant to the curriculum though, and I'm sure your daughter would love to visit somewhere that had a victorian classroom with slates, etc.

My son seemed so thrilled by the topic that I'm going to take him to a local hall that has victorian servants quarters, a schoolroom etc. that we haven't been to since he was in nursery (and he's forgotten about).

I don't know if everywhere teaches the victorians in year 1. Milliebear says year 2 at her school. It might be both years here. It's still interesting though, and she sounds like a she'd enjoy it anyway.

Topics vary from school to school. I teach the Victorians in Y5 and my DD's school cover it in Y2 - additionally, some schools will choose not to cover the Victorians at all!

jellyhead

Ah I see ... so just because year 2 at the catholic school I volunteered in last year learned about the great fire of London it doesn't mean that my son's school will teach it then or at all. My eldest learned about it at some point in primary, so fingers crossed

Educational days out will be fun anyway, whether school cover the topic or not.

The Staffordshire hoard is being exhibited in Lichfield if that's nearby.

I have no comment on the subject of pushing children because both of mine (summer birthdays) were below average in reception/year 1 so consolidation of what they learned in school was enough and the only extra classes we do are swimming, gymnastics, family cooking, jujitsu, guitar lessons kind of things (which is good for them because both are very clumsy and uncoordinated).

moomoomama27

efrieze wrote: »

Yes - that was me on the programme. And I admit I am a whole lot worse now than when I was filmed a few months ago. I thought it didn't make me look that bad at all so if you were shouting at the TV at me, you would definitely disagree with me in person!

I have to admit I was shouting at the TV at you! I actually think there's a fine line in giving children great opportunities in life, and then living your dreams through them! I'm afraid I feel you do the latter!

While it's fantastic to put lots of effort into helping your child progress, it puts alot of pressure on them to be the best, you should be happy for them to be the best they can be, it's not a competition, and when you said that I felt so sorry if your children didn't live up or achieve your high expectations!

Learning at this age is best achieved through practical measures, cooking, nature walks, reading and exploring many books, puzzles and educational games that are fun!

Why do you want to push her fast through this stage? Why not trust the school you chose, or move her if you don't think they are dedicated to her educ\tion! They will only be moving at her pace, not yours.

Sorry if I seem harsh, but I work with this age group and I see all the time the kids that are pushed, and seem to know things, but it's only on the surface, they can read well, but don't comprehend what they've read! They are eager to please, but can be withdrawn, because they are under so much pressure!

I agree with you they are like sponges, and the more you can do with her that is learning through experience the better, children need childhoods too! It's not about being THE best, but being THEIR best!

patchwork_cat

moomoomama27 wrote: »

I have to admit I was shouting at the TV at you! I actually think there's a fine line in giving children great opportunities in life, and then living your dreams through them! I'm afraid I feel you do the latter!

While it's fantastic to put lots of effort into helping your child progress, it puts alot of pressure on them to be the best, you should be happy for them to be the best they can be, it's not a competition, and when you said that I felt so sorry if your children didn't live up or achieve your high expectations!

Learning at this age is best achieved through practical measures, cooking, nature walks, reading and exploring many books, puzzles and educational games that are fun!

Why do you want to push her fast through this stage? Why not trust the school you chose, or move her if you don't think they are dedicated to her educ\tion! They will only be moving at her pace, not yours.

Sorry if I seem harsh, but I work with this age group and I see all the time the kids that are pushed, and seem to know things, but it's only on the surface, they can read well, but don't comprehend what they've read! They are eager to please, but can be withdrawn, because they are under so much pressure!

I agree with you they are like sponges, and the more you can do with her that is learning through experience the better, children need childhoods too! It's not about being THE best, but being THEIR best!

I disagree that the OP seems to be living her life vicariously through her DD, she did read Maths at Oxford. As I said she did remind me of 2 friends where both parents went to Oxbridge (and privately educated their children). It may well be OP that your aspirations would be better served by sending your DD to a prep school, as I say if you are waiting for homework I fear you will be in for a long wait!

moomoomama27

patchwork_cat wrote: »

I disagree that the OP seems to be living her life vicariously through her DD, she did read Maths at Oxford

I wasn't referring to the kumon! I was referring to the piece shown on the programme.

patchwork_cat

moomoomama27 wrote: »

I wasn't referring to the kumon! I was referring to the piece shown on the programme.

You said that you thought the OP was living her dreams through her daughter, I didn't mention kumon! I do not think that someone who read Maths at Oxford is living any academic life vicariously through her children!!

I think that part of the issue is that the OP's daughter is probably in the top 1% or more of the country intelligence wise and the OP wants her to acheive her full potential and not be bored or underacheive.

moomoomama27

patchwork_cat wrote: »

You said that you thought the OP was living her dreams through her daughter, I didn't mention kumon! I do not think that someone who read Maths at Oxford is living any academic life vicariously through her children!!

I wasn't meaning her academic life! Did you see the documentary?

My perception was that she was living through her child (all the extra cirricular activities etc). I'm not saying this is definate! This is just the way the OP came across to me in the documentary!

patchwork_cat

moomoomama27 wrote: »

I wasn't meaning her academic life! Did you see the documentary?

My perception was that she was living through her child (all the extra cirricular activities etc). I'm not saying this is definate! This is just the way the OP came across to me in the documentary!

Yes I did see the documentary, I still don't know where you got my referring to Kumon from. Very little was mentioned other than in passing about non academic activities, I believe Hebrew school, swimming and ballet? Swimming and ballet are both very normal extra curricular occupations for 5 year old girls. My DD certainly did those 2 and Rainbows.

Seriously these days you do need lots of achievements to get into teh best Uni, I do agree that she is doing it a bit early, but unless you have played tennis for county and climbed K2 you don't stand a chance of for example studying medicine!