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6 month break clause but tied-in for 8 months?

I'm hoping to rent a house and wanted a 6-month AST. The letting agent said today that the LL is not willing to grant 6-month ASTs but will allow a 1-year lease with a 6-month break-clause.

However, apparently the 6-month break-clause means I give 2 months worth of notice in month # 6 - so can't move out until month # 8.

Is this normal?

Thanks!

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  • DVardysShadow
    DVardysShadow Posts: 18,949 Forumite
    What is the wording of the clause? No point in arguing over he said she said the agreement says. What matters is what it actually says.
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  • What is the wording of the clause? No point in arguing over he said she said the agreement says. What matters is what it actually says.
    Well I don't know yet because nothing has been agreed in writing.

    I'm just wondering how what the agent stated could be described as a "six month" break-clause? Surely that would be an "eight month" break-clause?
  • sooz
    sooz Posts: 4,560 Forumite
    It really depends on what the break clause says. They vary wildly, depending on who writes them (usually quite badly).

    It is normal to ask for 2 month's notice for a break clause, even though legally tenants only need to give one month's notice. So, depending on how it's written, it could be give notice on month 4 to leave on month 6, or give notice on month 6 to leave on month 8.

    Or it could be re written to allow you to envoke the break at any point from month 6 onwards (so meaning you could leave from month 8 onwards)

    It's all up for negotiation. If you don't like what the LA says, find another property with another agent.
  • DVardysShadow
    DVardysShadow Posts: 18,949 Forumite
    Well I don't know yet because nothing has been agreed in writing.

    I'm just wondering how what the agent stated could be described as a "six month" break-clause? Surely that would be an "eight month" break-clause?
    You know, sometimes, it pays not to ask too many questions too early. To me a 6 month break clause means you can leave at 6 months. So I would take that at face value and ask for the agreement in writing to inspect beforehand. If it was not a 6 month break clause, then I would insist and be prepared to walk away.

    Done that way, you can go in strongly and say 'that it not the agreed 6 month break clause!". Whereas having their interpretation now, you have to say "Please, pretty please, will you alter the break clause to allow me to leave at 6 months?"
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  • G_M
    G_M Posts: 51,977 Forumite
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    sooz wrote: »
    It really depends on what the break clause says. They vary wildly, depending on who writes them (usually quite badly). True.

    It is normal to ask for 2 month's notice for a break clause, True even though legally tenants only need to give one month's notice. NOT TRUE! You are confusing this with a periodic tenancy. This is a fixed term tenancy. Legally, NO notice is required at the end of the fixed term, and the notice for a break clause depends entirely on the wording of the clause. So, depending on how it's written, it could be give notice on month 4 to leave on month 6, or give notice on month 6 to leave on month 8.or give notice in month 3 to leave on month 6, or....or....

    Or it could be re written to allow you to envoke the break at any point from month 6 onwards (so meaning you could leave from month 8 onwards)

    It's all up for negotiation. If you don't like what the LA says, find another property with another agent.

    The most usual arrangement is to give 2 months notice to activate a break clause from the 6 month point onward. ie notice month 4, leave month 6; notice month 5, leave month 7.
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