Help with UK CPS Penalty Notice Charge

MrsClooney

Hi everyone,

I am a recent addict to the MSE website, and this is my first time on the forum.

I have been reading a lot about these PPC's tonight and I am confused as to whether the advice only applies to unfair charges or any charges they try to impose?

My car has received a ticket for being parked on private land, where there were signs saying so, but the said spaces were for a business whose opening times are week days only and being out with these hours it was thought that it would be fine to park for a few mins to use another local business. The car now has one of these notices from UK CPS for £100 for ten-fifteen mins worth of parking.

Does the advice on ignoring etc apply to this case or does the PNC need to be paid? As on the 'read this before posting' thread says it applies to unfair charges, but then other sources seem to contradict this?

Someone please help me I'll be eternally greatful :A

Thanks

trisontana

Just ignore these bunch of clowns. You don't owe them a penny because they haven't suffered any financial loss by that act of parking out of hours. By the way, this is not a "penalty charge notice" (that term can only be used by the police of the council). It's a "parking charge notice". See how the initials have been carefully chosen to fool people that this is an official document. The same goes for "UKCPS" which some people might think stands for "UK Crown Prosecution Service".

By the way, be very careful what information you divulge on here. Employees of UKCPS have been known to read this forum in an attempt to find out the identity of the driver. Also be very wary of any private messages you receive.

RENEGADE_2

To answer you, it applies to all their actions. How do you define a "fair" charge?

esmerobbo

Was the ticket placed on the car? Or was it a postal request for a donation? The reason for the question you say the business's connected to this car park were closed. Then UKCPS's claim of car park management can not really stand up can it. It asks the question why if the business's are closed why the car park is not closed in some way, a barrier or a chain?

It would seem the car park managers are maybe enticing people to park there with the intention of slapping a donation request on the screen.

What makes it unfair is they are missing out all the relevant bits, and penalising you beyond any reasonable loss to them which is nil!

MrsClooney

Thank you for all the replies.

I am trying to be careful about what I say :S

It wasn't exactly a car park, but spaces outside a building, no bollards etc. I have not received a letter, but the car had a ticket on the window.

There was a car parked in another space (there are only a few) with an occupant...makes you think he/she put the ticket there as soon as the occupant(s) left the vehicle...or why did they not also get a ticket?

NeverAgain_2

MrsClooney wrote: »

Thank you for all the replies.

I am trying to be careful about what I say :S

It wasn't exactly a car park, but spaces outside a building, no bollards etc. I have not received a letter, but the car had a ticket on the window.

There was a car parked in another space (there are only a few) with an occupant...makes you think he/she put the ticket there as soon as the occupant(s) left the vehicle...or why did they not also get a ticket?

The ins and outs of this are irrelevant.

The ticket you have received is an unenforceable scam invoice, and can be safely ignored.

But you should prepare yourself to receive a series of convincing-looking threatening letters.

Many people give in after a few of these, which is why the scam company sends them.

Don't whatever you do contact the company, they will see this as a 'bite', and hassle you all the more.

RENEGADE_2

MrsClooney wrote: »

...or why did they not also get a ticket?

It hardly matters. Yours is a scam given to you by a disreputable company with no power of enforcement. Any attempts by any private body to make you pay an arbitrary sum (not proven in court) is harassment and you should therefore report it to the authorities. You don't need to at this point, but if the swines have gone to the DVLA for keeper details when not even knowing who the responsible person who parked was - then report it.

Kite2010

MrsClooney wrote: »

Thank you for all the replies.

I am trying to be careful about what I say :S

It wasn't exactly a car park, but spaces outside a building, no bollards etc. I have not received a letter, but the car had a ticket on the window.

There was a car parked in another space (there are only a few) with an occupant...makes you think he/she put the ticket there as soon as the occupant(s) left the vehicle...or why did they not also get a ticket?

That car probably belonged to the person whom put the ticket on your car. It's a tactic used by dodgy clamping companies, park their own car on a patch of land to make people think it's okay to park there, before clamping them,

Sir_Roger_deLodger

MrsClooney wrote: »

I have been reading a lot about these PPC's tonight and I am confused as to whether the advice only applies to unfair charges or any charges they try to impose?

All charges imposed by any PPC are unfair. They are scum. Ignore them.

MrsClooney

I just wanted to follow up on this, two letters have now been received, one of which contains a page called 'photographic evidence' with two photos of the car, along with date and time. Does this change anything?

MrsClooney

RENEGADE wrote: »

It hardly matters. Yours is a scam given to you by a disreputable company with no power of enforcement. Any attempts by any private body to make you pay an arbitrary sum (not proven in court) is harassment and you should therefore report it to the authorities. You don't need to at this point, but if the swines have gone to the DVLA for keeper details when not even knowing who the responsible person who parked was - then report it.

What do you mean when you say to report it? Do you mean to the DVLA?

Thanks