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Isnt it strange how

The people who moan the most about house prices, think that renting is such a good deal are those that seem to all be earning much less than the national average and spend most of their normal working hours posting on forums.

It's something to have firmly in your mind when reading what they write, these are not winners in life, they havent made £100ks on the stock market through their amazing financial knowledge, though they would have you think they are that smart. No, I'd go as far as saying they are life's losers.

Its a bit sad really, if only they actually spent as much time grafting as they do moaning about their lot. They would get that promotion or start that new business and actually succeed in life and be able to afford that house easily.
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  • heathcote123
    heathcote123 Posts: 1,133 Forumite
    I don't know if it's really very kind to refer to anyone as lifes losers, but I think there is certainly an element of truth in your suggestion. If you have time to make 20000 posts a year across 3 or 4 forums, you have time to make more money & the problem resolves itself.
  • Thrugelmir
    Thrugelmir Posts: 89,546 Forumite
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    Is this the Sunday sermon?
  • MacMickster
    MacMickster Posts: 3,646 Forumite
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    Some may be life's winners, who are now in the comfortable position of not having to work every hour that god sends, so have more free time. I suspect for example that Thrugelmir, who has just posted above and is one of those with thousands of posts, may be doing OK for himself and posts on these boards to try to help some who are in a less fortunate position.

    I think that it is wrong to make such disparaging generalisations.
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  • Sibley
    Sibley Posts: 1,557 Forumite
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    The people who moan the most about house prices, think that renting is such a good deal are those that seem to all be earning much less than the national average and spend most of their normal working hours posting on forums.

    It's something to have firmly in your mind when reading what they write, these are not winners in life, they havent made £100ks on the stock market through their amazing financial knowledge, though they would have you think they are that smart. No, I'd go as far as saying they are life's losers.

    Its a bit sad really, if only they actually spent as much time grafting as they do moaning about their lot. They would get that promotion or start that new business and actually succeed in life and be able to afford that house easily.


    I agree with you 100%.

    To be fair to the HPC website. I think they got it right a few years ago. House prices would have crashed had the governent not stepped in.

    Once the message was got across loud and clear that house prices would not be allowed to fall at any cost the game was up for them.

    The main players on the site all left and bought a place. What you have left are the people you are on about. They haven't got what it takes to own a house and will rent forever.
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  • DervProf
    DervProf Posts: 4,035 Forumite
    Sibley wrote: »
    To be fair to the HPC website. I think they got it right a few years ago. House prices would have crashed had the governent not stepped in.

    For once, I agree with you.
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  • heathcote123
    heathcote123 Posts: 1,133 Forumite
    DervProf wrote: »
    For once, I agree with you.

    And remember just how much they ridiculed the concept that the govt could step in.... anyone suggestion such a thing was pilloried.

    It was more like a religion than any kind of reasoning.
  • Turnbull2000
    Turnbull2000 Posts: 1,807 Forumite
    Yeah, the folk on HPC were quite reasonable a few years ago. Now though, anyone remotely sane has been banned and all that's left is life's losers wallowing in bitterness and dangerous self-agreement. Quite sad, really.
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  • macaque_2
    macaque_2 Posts: 2,439 Forumite
    The people who moan the most about house prices, think that renting is such a good deal are those that seem to all be earning much less than the national average and spend most of their normal working hours posting on forums.

    It's something to have firmly in your mind when reading what they write, these are not winners in life, they havent made £100ks on the stock market through their amazing financial knowledge, though they would have you think they are that smart. No, I'd go as far as saying they are life's losers.

    Its a bit sad really, if only they actually spent as much time grafting as they do moaning about their lot. They would get that promotion or start that new business and actually succeed in life and be able to afford that house easily.

    I am a renter, I do invest on the stock market and I have an engineering company which I started some years ago.

    There are winners and in the property game but this has more to do with luck, and accident of birth date. There are also losers. People who invested in property in the last 5 years were either greedy or foolish. Either way they are financial losers. I have little sympathy for them as they hang on grimly in the desperate hope of another boom. It won't happen, loose lending is over for at least another hundred years and a correction is unavoidable.

    People who bought homes to live in over the past 5 years are not losers (for the same reason that someone who buys a car is not a loser).

    The housing market in this country is in a mess. Housing is a necessity and it should not be subject to wild value swings between generations. The fallout from such cycles cause misery, deprivation and damage to the economy.

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  • kabayiri
    kabayiri Posts: 22,740 Forumite
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    What a primitive view on winning or losing in life.
  • DervProf
    DervProf Posts: 4,035 Forumite
    And remember just how much they ridiculed the concept that the govt could step in.... anyone suggestion such a thing was pilloried.

    It was more like a religion than any kind of reasoning.

    Well, when I used to frequent hpc, I didn't read much about predicitions of the government stepping in, but maybe that because I stopped visiting before those predictions were made. I must admit, it has suprised me just how much action the government has taken. So much for a "free" property market.
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