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My opinion is that now your daughter is actually doing much more skilled work and earning the company money, she should be paid. The salon must be laughing, they are making money off your daughter and at the same time not having to pay out for the labour.
I think that when your daughter started it was okay as it was experience but now she should be paid for sure, like you said, she has a qualification for the job. I know how you feel about the situation but, what about your daughter? Is she happy or does she feel the same way you do?
I think I too would be narked because they do seem to be taking advantage of her and the fact that she is young. Be careful how you tread though as you don`t want her to loose the position, I would talk to your daughter first if she feels the same and decide how she will approach the boss. I would say that as I am now earning the business money I feel that I should be paid for my services0 -
Ok thanks for the comments.... situation update....
She went again this Saturday, this will be her third Saturday since the supposed work trial. Asked About being paid etc... Given the salon manger was not in she was forced to email him. And yes she was cutting hair again.
His response was to suggest her feedback from the work trial was not positive and that as a result he would only able to offer her any hours but would consider her for adhoc hours if and when they arose.
I was somewhat amazed at this. It seems all my daughters clients appeared quite happy with their cuts and left the shop without complaint, so I am unsure where this feedback came from. Since the supposed work trial, she has continued to cut peoples hair. Which given "Negative" feed back amazes me further still.
I wrote a reply to the managers mail on her behalf, doing my best to keep things amicable and insisting on a reply. I will wait and see what they say before I vent my temper on them.I am a NumptyYou should note that this site doesn't check my status as a Numpty, so you need to take my word for it. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as good advice.0 -
Ok thanks for the comments.... situation update....
She went again this Saturday, this will be her third Saturday since the supposed work trial. Asked About being paid etc... Given the salon manger was not in she was forced to email him. And yes she was cutting hair again.
His response was to suggest her feedback from the work trial was not positive and that as a result he would only able to offer her any hours but would consider her for adhoc hours if and when they arose.
I was somewhat amazed at this. It seems all my daughters clients appeared quite happy with their cuts and left the shop without complaint, so I am unsure where this feedback came from. Since the supposed work trial, she has continued to cut peoples hair. Which given "Negative" feed back amazes me further still.
I wrote a reply to the managers mail on her behalf, doing my best to keep things amicable and insisting on a reply. I will wait and see what they say before I vent my temper on them.
Sorry but if someone is over the age of 18 they shouldnt get their parents involved.
Why does she not just leave? She can take on as an apprentice in hairdressers anywhere and with BIG names too!0 -
I am not involved as such, but should someone over the age of 18 not get advice from their parents? I wrote the email she sent basically. That seemed better than advising her what to say.
She is pretty niave still only just 18 and is clearly being taken for a ride. As much as I want her to stand on her own two feet on this, there comes a point where enough is enough and its reponsible to offer some assistance. That in itself can be a learning experience for her, as she will see how differently I deal with them. (If it comes to that)#
So far all I have done is try and push her to resolve this herself and write an email for her when she was in no state to do it herself given she was crying over the email she had received at the time.
She has no intention of going back anyway unless they offer her payment.I am a NumptyYou should note that this site doesn't check my status as a Numpty, so you need to take my word for it. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as good advice.0 -
At the end of the day, if they are not happy with her work they have every right not to take her on or offer her any more work. For all you know, her clients could be satisfied but there are other areas of her work /attitude that need addressing. It's not just about the customer!
I agree they should have given her feedback earlier and an opportunity to address any issues, but they didn't.
If I was your daughter I'd cut (pardon the pun) my losses and look elsewhere. She has some experience now. Will they give her a reference or will your email to them affect that now?0 -
as I said I kept the email amicable for just that reason.I am a NumptyYou should note that this site doesn't check my status as a Numpty, so you need to take my word for it. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as good advice.0
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At the end of the day, if they are not happy with her work they have every right not to take her on or offer her any more work. For all you know, her clients could be satisfied but there are other areas of her work /attitude that need addressing. It's not just about the customer!
I agree they should have given her feedback earlier and an opportunity to address any issues, but they didn't.
If I was your daughter I'd cut (pardon the pun) my losses and look elsewhere. She has some experience now. Will they give her a reference or will your email to them affect that now?
Well as I said I kept the email amicable.
But I must point out that people in this country do not stand up for thelselves like they should because of the fear of the consequences. I'd rather my daughter stood up to them, than be fearful she would not get a reference.
Also If her work is not up to scratch why are they still happy to let her work on their clients for no wage.I am a NumptyYou should note that this site doesn't check my status as a Numpty, so you need to take my word for it. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as good advice.0 -
I see where you're coming from - just make sure daughter is not shooting herself in foot reference wise by making a stand. It may well feel like the morally right thing to do (stand up to them) but if it means no ref then she's wasted all that work experience for nowt. Good luck0
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I'll cut to the chase,
I think the manager realises that his days of free labour are coming to an end. He'll probably have another young trainee in there soon getting the same treatment. Hopefully this will all just blow over and your daughter will be able to find an honest salon who actually pay ppl for their work0 -
Perhaps your daughter could give her mobile phone number to her customers and she could offer to undercut the salon for doing their hair at home.
I doubt the manager could object as he doesn't employ her anyway."If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." -- Red Adair0
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