The generation poorer than their parents

geneer

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Which bit?

The part that was self-evident, or the part which was blindingly obvious?

If it was self evident evidence wouldn't be requested.

You have been asked to support your claims.
A simple enough request I would have thought.

olly300

mintedmatty wrote: »

Same goes! I had a picnic dining table and 2 chairs, and a bed! Think I had a beanbag too, that was only in 2005. I think marriage is a big factor to be considered.

One thing missing is the fact that cheap furniture stores like Ikea didn't exist, and there were no supermarkets selling furniture. The price of cheaper furniture like other consumer goods has got gone down over the years.

Plus I remember when a few friends have had wanted to get rid of sofas due to moving. They couldn't sell them and no charity would accept them, so unless they managed to give them to the new occupant of their property or a friend they had to pay to get them to the local tip.

Graham_Devon

olly300 wrote: »

Plus I remember when a few friends have had wanted to get rid of sofas due to moving. They couldn't sell them and no charity would accept them, so unless they managed to give them to the new occupant of their property or a friend they had to pay to get them to the local tip.

That's no different to now.

Graham_Devon

Can't find many prices from the 80's.

However, heres a couple from a telegraph article...

While Britons got by on an average wage of £6,000 (the equivalent of about £19,000 today), petrol cost 28p a litre (90p), a pint of beer was 35p (£1.10), a loaf of bread 33p (£1.10) and a pint of milk 17p (54p).

Not sure why they picked the prices they did, but the figures in brackets are todays equiv prices. Don't look like items have gone down in general, from that very small list.

olly300

Graham_Devon wrote: »

That's no different to now.

I should have pointed out this this is in the last 4 years.

People don't want second hand sofas as they are so cheap to buy new even if the cheap ones don't last as long.

Graham_Devon

olly300 wrote: »

I should have pointed out this this is in the last 4 years.

People don't want second hand sofas as they are so cheap to buy new even if the cheap ones don't last as long.

I dunno. People still buy second hand decent sofas. Theres a shop devoted to such in my local town, so people do buy them.

Just like anything. People don't really want second hand cheap sofas, and people are not as inclined to sell them, due to the hassle of selling vs the potential money to be made.

17,000+ listings of sofas on ebay. Some sold, some not.

ukcarper

abaxas wrote: »

Times change and the kids change, the flower power of the 60s/early 70's dissolved into hate.

All I'm saying is dont bite that hand that feed you, it might stop giving you food.

The flower power generation of the 60s and 70s that always gives me a good laugh that's a middle class myth.

System

This conversation crops up once a month and I still don't understand the point of it.

So what if something was more or less 40 years ago? The world changes.

ukcarper

Lets get things into perspective in 1973 the average house price was £9k according to measuring worth using earnings the equivelent in 2009 was £132k.

I’ve posted this before
Have just been going through some old paper work and found a couple of receipts from 1964

2lb of sugar 1s 5d
6pts of milk 4s 6d
0.5lb of tea 3s 9d
Gallon of petrol 4s 4p

Using the measuring worth website in 2009 using earnings they equate to

£2.28, £7.24, £6.03 and £6.97

I thought they made interesting reading from last weeks shopping receipt 4pts of milk £1.49 2lb of sugar 84p

Found a couple of other things GPO line rental 1964 £4 a quarter, £129 in todays earnings.
An electric bill for quarter ending June 1965 £5.6s.9d, £172 in todays earnings

zagubov

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

But it's not "bedrooms" then.

Most people actually use their living room, kitchen and toilets for, well, not sleeping in....;)

We have no kids and currently live in a 3 bedroom house.

We use the other bedrooms for a home office, and a storage room/spare bedroom for guests.

Not sure you can say people don't "need" those rooms just because they don't sleep in them every night.

When I meant rooms I meant them in the old-fashioned way of 2-apartment 3-apartment dwellings ie 2 or 3 reception or bed rooms.

There's still houses /flats where people sleep on fold-down beds/sofabeds / put-u-ups / zed-beds whatever in what some would call living rooms, but it used to be a lot more common.

And lots of people lived in digs/lodgings which would be where people have their spare offices/guest rooms now. I wasn't implying toilets/kitchens/outhouses or toolsheds!