OT Assessment for Blue Badge

dafyguy

Anubis wrote: »

I believe the Government wish to phase out DLA and AA as the green paper is there for the proposal to scrap both, and everyone pay insurace of 12 or 25 thousand pounds, ( regardless of health) and if you are disabled you recieve the care you need without getting any money.

That is one of the better ideas that have come form this government.

At least you will be given the care and help you need when you need it. Just shelling out money under DLA was never the answer.

krisskross

Anubis wrote: »

I believe the Government wish to phase out DLA and AA as the green paper is there for the proposal to scrap both, and everyone pay insurace of 12 or 25 thousand pounds, ( regardless of health) and if you are disabled you recieve the care you need without getting any money.

Could you provide some proof of this? Sounds like nonsense to me.

ETA: My husband has a blue badge but doesn't get DLA. We don't even have a car but it is useful when we go out with family or friends.

Richie-from-the-Boro

DLA / PIP transition

BB Reform Summary

DfT / BB Circular

DPTAC minutes

BB Impact Assessment

Scotland's version of BB reform

krisskross

Richie-from-the-Boro wrote: »

DLA / PIP transition

Yes I know about this. Will not affect anyone over retirement age so not AA at all. I believe the Green Paper referred to was a dropped plan by our previous government.

And where does the payment of thousands of pounds come into it?

amibovvered

Apologies if this has already been mentioned but I couldn't see it. You all seem very hung up on the connection (or otherwise) between BB and DLA. First of all (and this was mentioned above) if you are over 65 you cannot get DLA and AA does not confer the same automatic right to a BB. Rather more importantly though, it is perfectly possible to qualify for a BB by virtue of being unable to walk very far but to have no other care needs whatsoever. Before I retired last year one of my duties was compiling an annual statutory return to the Department for Transport on the Blue Badges issued by the council for which I worked. I can assure you there are many thousands of people who have sufficiently reduced mobility to qualify for a BB but who need no other care at that time, therefore they would not qualify for DLA at all, and particularly not at the higher rate which is needed to get a BB automatically.

Richie-from-the-Boro

krisskross wrote: »

Yes I know about this. Will not affect anyone over retirement age so not AA at all. I believe the Green Paper referred to was a dropped plan by our previous government.

And where does the payment of thousands of pounds come into it?

I never mentioned payment of ' thousands of pounds ' I posted info relating to the changes to BB in that .. .. the passport which is currently DLA will become PIP [ 30% reduction in those transitioned to PIP will mean 30% less blue badge holders ] and in addition the ' new centralised control rules ' on the issue of blue badge from next year will mean all people other than those who are passported will have to undergo a 90 minute O/T physical examination to qualify for a blue badge.

Many who have had DISCRETION [ ary ] badges in the past will fall before the first hurdle, DISCRETION is out as of next year. You don't need DLA / PIP to get a BB but 90% of the badges issued are passported that way.

vax2002

A lot of people are eligible for a blue badge yet can not receive DLA because they can dress themselves and don't need to be spoon fed food etc.
My son has Perthes in his hip, the answer to how far he can walk without discomfort is 0, Zero, one of his legs is 2 inches shorter than the other.
But because he can dress himself, walk short distances with a stick he is not entitled to any rate of DLA.
Blue badges are for people with mobility problems.
DLA is for people who are in capable of looking after themselves.
They are quite separate issues and they should never be merged.

dafyguy

Richie-from-the-Boro wrote: »

I never mentioned payment of ' thousands of pounds ' I posted info relating to the changes to BB in that .. .. the passport which is currently DLA will become PIP [ 30% reduction in those transitioned to PIP will mean 30% less blue badge holders ] and in addition the ' new centralised control rules ' on the issue of blue badge from next year will mean all people other than those who are passported will have to undergo a 90 minute O/T physical examination to qualify for a blue badge.

Many who have had DISCRETION [ ary ] badges in the past will fall before the first hurdle, DISCRETION is out as of next year. You don't need DLA / PIP to get a BB but 90% of the badges issued are passported that way.

Yes I can agree with your calculations.

I also agree that the Blue Badges in the past have been far too easy to get because of 'helpful' GP's.

Blue Badges should only be issued to those who are in receipt of DLA High Mobility OR those over 65, who must then pass the 90 minute OT examination.

dafyguy

vax2002 wrote: »

A lot of people are eligible for a blue badge yet can not receive DLA because they can dress themselves and don't need to be spoon fed food etc.

What on earth has care needs for DLA got to do with getting a Blue Badge for mobility needs?

My son has Perthes in his hip, the answer to how far he can walk without discomfort is 0, Zero, one of his legs is 2 inches shorter than the other.

Then on that basis alone, you should be applying for the mobility element of DLA.

But because he can dress himself, walk short distances with a stick he is not entitled to any rate of DLA.
Blue badges are for people with mobility problems.
DLA is for people who are in capable of looking after themselves.

Rubbish!!! DLA is split into two parts Care and Mobility. You can have one but not the other, or you can have both.
DLA is for people who cannot or virtually cannot, walk.

They are quite separate issues and they should never be merged.

The new scheme for Blue Badges now mirrors the requirement to get the high mobility element of DLA.


You may qualify for a Blue Badge if you:
Are unable to walk or have very considerable difficulty in walking because of a permanent or substantial disability.

DLA

The higher rate of mobility is payable to people who
1. are unable or virtually unable to walk because of a physical disability1 (see DMG 61276 et seq)

dafyguy

amibovvered wrote: »

Apologies if this has already been mentioned but I couldn't see it. You all seem very hung up on the connection (or otherwise) between BB and DLA. First of all (and this was mentioned above) if you are over 65 you cannot get DLA and AA does not confer the same automatic right to a BB. Rather more importantly though, it is perfectly possible to qualify for a BB by virtue of being unable to walk very far but to have no other care needs whatsoever. Before I retired last year one of my duties was compiling an annual statutory return to the Department for Transport on the Blue Badges issued by the council for which I worked. I can assure you there are many thousands of people who have sufficiently reduced mobility to qualify for a BB but who need no other care at that time, therefore they would not qualify for DLA at all, and particularly not at the higher rate which is needed to get a BB automatically.

Yes but under the new scheme to be brought in next year, which quite a few authorities have already started using, the conditions to now get a Blue Badge mirror the same conditions that you have to have to get DLA high mobility.

This is fair and right. For far too many years getting a Blue Badge has been the 'easy' option provided you have a 'sympathetic' GP'

All of that is to or has already stopped.