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Unusual ceiling wiring or a bodge?

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  • deddogblues
    deddogblues Posts: 165 Forumite
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    If I were a betting man I would say that the black/green cable goes to a switch and the others are the supply as in post 2.
    If this is correct then both the wires should have red sleeving on them as they are live wires when connected, have a look in the switch will confirm this.
    The two bare wires are earth and should have green/yellow sleeves, there is probably a bare wire with the green and black pair too if you cut back the insulation.
  • baldelectrician
    baldelectrician Posts: 2,467 Forumite
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    The wiring doesn't look too fantastic

    I would suggest you get somoene in who can test for earth loop impedance- there is a fair chance there may be a poor / non existent earth on this.

    You should use a competent person for the work, links below
    In Scotland:
    Individuals registered;
    http://www.sbsa.gov.uk/register/ListAC.asp
    Companies
    http://www.sbsa.gov.uk/register/SearchRegCo.asp?T=Construction
    In England and Wales:
    http://www.competentperson.co.uk
    baldly going on...
  • Hi everyone thank you for the info so far!

    I have managed to get the new light working, however, no lights in kitchen or bathroom (which are both downstairs, below that room). I connected the black / green in various combinations. . .with no success!!!

    Any ideas please?
  • Hi everyone thank you for the info so far!

    I have managed to get the new light working, however, no lights in kitchen or bathroom (which are both downstairs, below that room). I connected the black / green in various combinations. . .with no success!!!

    Any ideas please?

    The time has come to get someone in,in my opinion

    Someone who can test for earth loop impedance- there is a fair chance there may be a poor / non existent earth on this.

    You should use a competent person for the work, links below
    In Scotland:
    Individuals registered;
    http://www.sbsa.gov.uk/register/ListAC.asp
    Companies
    http://www.sbsa.gov.uk/register/Sear...T=Construction
    In England and Wales:
    http://www.competentperson.co.uk
    baldly going on...
  • keystone
    keystone Posts: 10,916 Forumite
    The time has come to get someone in,in my opinion.....Someone who can test for earth loop impedance-
    Second time you've said that. What makes you think OP will listen this time? ;)

    Cheers
    The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. - Einstein
  • MX5huggy
    MX5huggy Posts: 7,163 Forumite
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    Hi everyone thank you for the info so far!

    I have managed to get the new light working, however, no lights in kitchen or bathroom (which are both downstairs, below that room). I connected the black / green in various combinations. . .with no success!!!

    Any ideas please?


    Try some more combinations with 6 wires there are 720 combinations to try.

    I ignore the earth because you know they are not needed to get it to work.
  • keystone wrote: »
    Second time you've said that. What makes you think OP will listen this time? ;)

    Cheers

    One can only live in hope
    baldly going on...
  • DVardysShadow
    DVardysShadow Posts: 18,949 Forumite
    keystone wrote: »
    Second time you've said that. What makes you think OP will listen this time? ;)

    Cheers
    Light switches and lighting circuits, eh?

    Too simple to call out a professional, too hard to DIY.
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  • muckybutt
    muckybutt Posts: 3,761 Forumite
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    MX5huggy wrote: »
    I ignore the earth because you know they are not needed to get it to work.

    What a stupid comment ! earths are required for safety you numpty .... some people honestly !!!
    You may click thanks if you found my advice useful
  • DVardysShadow
    DVardysShadow Posts: 18,949 Forumite
    muckybutt wrote: »
    What a stupid comment ! earths are required for safety you numpty .... some people honestly !!!
    Read in context, I think the remark was sarcastic rather than a genuine suggestion.
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