Unusual ceiling wiring or a bodge?

pennypitstop50

Hi everyone. . .ok done the usual, bought a ceiling light, removed the old ceiling rose (which was so filthy I couldn't tell what wire colours they were!) and discovered 8 cables, in 3 sheaths. 2 pr black and red and 1 black and green, as below:



Here is the wall switch wiring:



and here is the light fitting:



is the ceiling wiring typical or bodged? I've trawled lots of ceiling wiring posts and i've tried several different permutations and altho I can get the light to work, I then lose power to the kitchen and bathroom lights! (they are both downstairs, under the room i'm trying to install the light.)

Can anyone please advise as i'm absolutely baffled. . .

Jus tried to post and told I can't post links. . .how annoying! I have links to the pics and I can't post them!

baldelectrician

It's loop in at the ceiling - or a variation of

It's very common, not as much now as it's more common to loop in at the switch now

See below- from DIY NOT website

pennypitstop50

Hi Baldy (sounds a bit rude lol!),

Thank you for the reply, it is greatly appreciated

I am still unsure about the 2pr tho. . .black and green. . .where do they go? The switch wiring has black and red and no sign of green. . .do I treat the green as red? And there isn't an earth with that pair. . .

MX5huggy

I think you need to get a pro in because it is confusing as you have netural coloured wires that are actually live.

latecomer

do you have a pic of the original wiring?

keystone

MX5huggy wrote: »

I think you need to get a pro in because it is confusing as you have netural coloured wires that are actually live.

neutral coloured wires ARE live in any event.

Cheers

keystone

latecomer wrote: »

do you have a pic of the original wiring?

OP can't post a pic as he doesn't have a high enough post count but that was my thought as well.

OP upload your pics to imageshack or similar then post the link the site gives you back here but delete the http part of the link befre you submit your post. Then one of us can fix the link to display the images here for everyone to see.

Cheers

pennypitstop50

Hi everyone, here are the links as suggested:

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MX5huggy

http://i1221.photobucket.com/albums/dd474/pennypitstop50/DSCF0006.jpg

http://i1221.photobucket.com/albums/dd474/pennypitstop50/DSCF0004.jpg

http://i1221.photobucket.com/albums/dd474/pennypitstop50/DSCF0007.jpg

baldelectrician

pennypitstop50 wrote: »

Hi everyone, here are the links as suggested:

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//i1221.photobucket.com/albums/dd474/pennypitstop50/DSCF0007.jpg

Photos below

pennypitstop50

Apologies, i've posted one of the wrong links! Here is the switch pic wiring link:

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