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Gardening expectations when renting

Hi guys and girls,

Having recently vacated a property at the end of my tenancy the Letting Agency is now trying to charge me for cutting the hedge and de-weeding the garden.

Despite me doing all of this 3 weeks before I left. Because weeds have started to grow back and the hedge is a little too long for their liking.

Where do I stand here, as I feel as I have looked after the garden, I can't be expected to re-do everything on move out day to ensure it's in "brand new" condition, and it should be accepted that living things will grow.

Any thoughts from Landlords or tenants?
Current Debt: 0%.
Current House Deposit: 7%.
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  • G_M
    G_M Posts: 51,977 Forumite
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    What condition was the garden in when you moved in? That's how you should leave it.

    Are there photos of when you moved in, or does the inventory describe the condition of the garden?

    If you rent a property that gives you the use/benefit of a garden you are expected to care for it in the same way as the property, unless the tenancy agreement specifically states the LL provides a gardener for instance.
  • Eton_Rifle
    Eton_Rifle Posts: 372 Forumite
    So do you only clean the toilet and hoover three weeks before you move out too?!
  • sham63
    sham63 Posts: 1,096 Forumite
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    Interesting query. I don't know the answer but am also interested in this issue.
    I would have thought it needed to be specified in the lease to be an enforceable matter - eg the tenant is responsible for cutting the lawn etc. If it's not specifically mentioned then surely it's not the tenants responsibility? Yes, a good tenent would keep it done but there probably isn't much a landlord could do if its not in the lease? Any other thoughts?
  • franklee
    franklee Posts: 3,867 Forumite
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    edited 26 July 2011 at 5:50PM
    G_M wrote: »
    What condition was the garden in when you moved in? That's how you should leave it.

    Are there photos of when you moved in, or does the inventory describe the condition of the garden?

    If you rent a property that gives you the use/benefit of a garden you are expected to care for it in the same way as the property, unless the tenancy agreement specifically states the LL provides a gardener for instance.
    Really? When I got here the shrubs (some of which make front hedging) were about six months old. Now they're much bigger and more mature. Although I trim them back to a range of waist to shoulder height if I took them back to shin/knee height as they were it'd practically mean ripping them out. Yet I thought I'd done well keeping them alive and flourishing. Also their height is at least partially down to aesthetics.
  • ShAnE
    ShAnE Posts: 275 Forumite
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    Eton_Rifle wrote: »
    So do you only clean the toilet and hoover three weeks before you move out too?!

    Assuming I didn't use any of the items I cleaned three weeks before I moved out again, then yes.

    Why would I clean the toilet again, if it hasn't been used. It isn't going to grow ****.

    My point is, if I have kept it manicured and neat, then why should I be charged to take an inch of the length of grass because the damn thing has kept growing, and it rained for the entire week before I moved, so I would have ended up breaking their lawn mower if I had even tried.

    At the start of the tenancy the garden when I moved in was a bomb site, but a gardener did eventually come round and tidy it up. At a cost of 1/2 a days holiday to myself (or £485 if my company were to invoice it) to let him in, as they wouldn't give him the keys even with my permission.
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    Current House Deposit: 7%.
  • sham63
    sham63 Posts: 1,096 Forumite
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    Was there anything specific in your lease mentioning maintenance of the garden?
  • dcems
    dcems Posts: 187 Forumite
    Landlord is trying his luck. If he wanted a perfect landscaped garden then he should have provided a gardener.

    Tell them to go jump !
  • may_fair
    may_fair Posts: 713 Forumite
    If this ends up being settled either by deposit scheme ADR or in the county court, the burden of proof will be on the LL to show he's suffered a loss.

    How much is being demanded for the work?
  • msgnomey
    msgnomey Posts: 1,613 Forumite
    Out of all the 14 or so rented properties I have lived in only one mentioned the garden in the tenancy agreement and all it said was 'to be kept neat and tidy'
    Go hopefully into each new day, enjoy something from every day no matter how small, you never know when it will be your last
  • may_fair
    may_fair Posts: 713 Forumite
    msgnomey wrote: »
    Out of all the 14 or so rented properties I have lived in only one mentioned the garden in the tenancy agreement and all it said was 'to be kept neat and tidy'
    It doesn't have to be mentioned for the tenant to be liable for its maintenance during the tenancy.
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