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Are run flat tyres a false economy...?

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  • Hammyman
    Hammyman Posts: 9,913 Forumite
    I've noticed that working on cars with RFT's fitted that, while the tread in the centre of the tyre is still at 5/6mm, the shoulders of the tyre are down to 2mm or sometimes smooth.

    But I can't help thinking that this tyre with 6mm on is now scrap. where as a normal tyre with 6mm on would last another 2 years or more.

    The main culprit I've noticed is the 3 Series BMW with 205 55 16's...

    Why is the tyre scrap? It is the center 75% of the tread width that counts, not the outer edges.

    Tread wear that you describe indicates under inflated tyres. Stiff tyre walls don't usually cause that type of wear otherwise you'd see it on every commercial vehicle.

    The main culprit I've noticed is the 3 Series BMW with 205 55 16's...
    ...usually owned by people who are the least likely to ever check their tyre pressures or even know what they are supposed to be.
  • Hammyman
    Hammyman Posts: 9,913 Forumite
    neilmcl wrote: »
    That's not the experience I've had. I had a 320D with that size tyre for 4 years and tyre wear was always even across the tyre.

    Indeed. That wear pattern is indicitive of the tyre being under inflated.
  • Strider590
    Strider590 Posts: 11,874 Forumite
    neilmcl wrote: »
    Strange how the most fuel efficient standard fuel cars tend to be BMWs with RFTs as standard. And as far as not being able to change a wheel is concerrned a lot of these cars don't have space for a spare so that's not really option, in fact the only option would be standard tyres with a mobility kit.

    No, BMW are pretty well known for "massaging" their MPG figures and besides, nobody really buys a BMW for fuel efficiency, it's just a socially acceptable excuse for buying the badge ;)
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  • neilmcl
    neilmcl Posts: 19,460 Forumite
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    Strider590 wrote: »
    No, BMW are pretty well known for "massaging" their MPG figures and besides, nobody really buys a BMW for fuel efficiency, it's just a socially acceptable excuse for buying the badge ;)
    And you know that for a fact because....


    Lets get this straight. The OP asked are RFTs a false economy? IMO AND experience they're not. Would I prefer standard tyres with a full sized spare? Most definitely yes.
  • chrisw
    chrisw Posts: 3,877 Forumite
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    neilmcl wrote: »
    Lets get this straight. The OP asked are RFTs a false economy? IMO AND experience they're not. Would I prefer standard tyres with a full sized spare? Most definitely yes.

    Agree entirely.
    neilmcl wrote: »
    That's not the experience I've had. I had a 320D with that size tyre for 4 years and tyre wear was always even across the tyre.

    Does seem to be a fairly common problem on the 3 series:-

    http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=561763
  • Strider590
    Strider590 Posts: 11,874 Forumite
    neilmcl wrote: »
    And you know that for a fact because....


    Lets get this straight. The OP asked are RFTs a false economy? IMO AND experience they're not. Would I prefer standard tyres with a full sized spare? Most definitely yes.


    I read lots and lots of web forums, it was even mentioned once or twice on this forum........ Unfortunately however I have a distinct lack of interest in debating this particular boooooring topic at this moment in time.
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  • harveybobbles
    harveybobbles Posts: 8,973 Forumite
    I'd say that about 70% of the cars we have thru our garage with RFT's have got very worn inner/outer edges.

    Can't all be low on air...
  • redped
    redped Posts: 805 Forumite
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    My wife's 3 series runs 205/55/R16 RFTs, and they're actually wearing evenly. I had RFTs on my Z4, but have changed to non-RFTs (plus Tyreweld, a compressor & AA membership for backup) ; my RFTs also wore evenly, but gave the worst ride I've encountered in a car.

    One point regarding false economy is the price of RFTs - a set of 18 inch RFTs for the Z4 was £900, compared to £600 for the same size of non-RFTs. So for me that's also a big factor.

    As has been said, I'd like BMW to make RFTs optional, as I'd choose non-RFTs and a spare wheel over RFTs any day of the week.
  • vikingaero
    vikingaero Posts: 10,920 Forumite
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    Autocar Magazine had an interview with the founder of Alpina Gmbh, Burkard Bovensiepen, in this weeks issue. Alpina cars are made on the same production lines as the standard BMW 3 series, but are fitted with normal road tyres rather than the runflat tyres. The reason for the fitment of RFT's is the American market who are paranoid about blowouts.
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  • harveybobbles
    harveybobbles Posts: 8,973 Forumite
    Hammyman wrote: »
    Why is the tyre scrap? It is the center 75% of the tread width that counts, not the outer edges.

    I agree, but in another few months time these tyres could well be showing the belts on the edges, yet still showing decent tread in the middle. So it seens silly to be throwing a tyre away that still has life in the middle of the tread.

    Hence why I asked about RFT's being false economy.
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