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Flashing blue lights: should I stop?
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Lum, the poster stated that there were two lanes that turned into three lanes with one for turning right. So the way you go out of the way wasn't needed.
I can tell everybody exactly what the OP was doing.
They are a new, inexperienced driver that is only concerned with what they are doing and have no interest in looking behind for anything, they wanted to turn right so they go into the right lane and were going to stay there regardless.
Have seen similar drivers all the time in London.
Newly qualified drivers these days have no idea what they should or shouldn't be doing on the roads half the time, do you blame the drivers themselves, the instructors or the examiners?0 -
George_Michael wrote: »Don't you just love these posters who get all judgmental and then go and get it totally wrong themselves and prove that they have no idea of what a dual carriageway actually is.
Don't you hate it even more when the posters that jump on something incorrect mentioned by another poster and really make a clot of themselves simply due to them not reading the OP's first post!
Do feel free to point out these single carraigeways with two lanes in one direction that then widen into three lanes to have a right hand filter lane.
One small point, if this is a two lane single carraigeway, seperated with nothing more than a double white line then where does this extra room come from to allow this extra third right turn lane.
OOPS, it comes from the central divider or reservation, therefore confirming that the OP must surely be talking about a dual carraigeway.
Even if the OP is to come back on and say it wasn't a dual carraigeway where does this extra room for the right turn lane come from?
It certainly won't come from the opposite direction of travels second lane will it?0 -
harveybobbles wrote: »Wonder what would have happened if the Police car in this situation wanted to turn right at the traffic lights...
Makes no difference Harveybobbles, you are required to allow emergency vehicles to pass, you would simply slow and move to the left, emergency vehicles passes then turns right at the appropriate place.
The OP is just not going to admit they where wrong and will cling onto any inaccurate windup post they can that they think will show them to be in the right.
They can not be in the right as they fail to see the basics, if you are in the right lane, and an emergency vehicle approaches from behind with blues on then you are required to allow them to pass, as you are not allowed to pass on the left in such a situation thenthe only way for the OP to allow them to pass is to move to the left.
This really isn't that difficult a thing to understand, the fact that the OP needs this information to be spoon fed in the most basic way says a lot about their ability to drive safely on the road.
No matter what they say on here people like this cause serious accidents on the road everyday.
If they have so little consideration for the emergency services then how much consideration do you think they have for other road users.
The OP is lucky they didn't report them for driving without due care and attention.0 -
They can not be in the right as they fail to see the basics, if you are in the right lane, and an emergency vehicle approaches from behind with blues on then you are required to allow them to pass, as you are not allowed to pass on the left in such a situation thenthe only way for the OP to allow them to pass is to move to the left.
Are you sure that emergency vehicle is not allowed to undertake? I see they are allowed to drive much faster in 30mph zone, go through red lights but it seems to me you are saying that there is something special about undertaking which is not allowed under any circumstances.
I already admitted that I made a mistake. I just was not sure what the mistake was. My current understanding is that I did not indicate properly my intentions to let them pass.0 -
In most states of the USA, in a built up area, by law if you see emergency lights behind you or hear an emergency siren, you are required to pull into the side of the road and stop to let the emergency vehicles pass.
I think this is very sensible and it's what I've always tried to do whenever the situation arises.
The main problem does seem to be the drivers who don't know when an emergency vehicle with its lights flashing and siren going is behind them!"There are not enough superlatives in the English language to describe a 'Princess Coronation' locomotive in full cry. We shall never see their like again". O S Nock0 -
Here is a one lane single carriageway that becomes two lanes and then sprouts a third lane for turning right, all without there being any form of central reservation.
If you scroll south a bit you'll see a similar 1->3 split with no central reservation.
If this can exist I don't see any reason why a 2 lane single carriageway can't split into 3 with no central reservation.
OP: Can we get a google maps link to the junction where this happened please?
Edit: And the little story I posted above was in response to Strider's comments on page 1.0 -
Are you sure that emergency vehicle is not allowed to undertake? I see they are allowed to drive much faster in 30mph zone, go through red lights but it seems to me you are saying that there is something special about undertaking which is not allowed under any circumstances.
I already admitted that I made a mistake. I just was not sure what the mistake was. My current understanding is that I did not indicate properly my intentions to let them pass.
No the emergency vehicle is not supposed to undertake.
The reason I know this is that I have been working for the London Ambulance Service for a decade and this is something we are not allowed to claim an exemption for, as is crossing a solid white line or contravening a no entry sign.
Some of the above can be performed when signalled to do so by a uniformed copper.
There will be times that an emergency vehicle will undertake or cross solid white lines but the person driving could be charged with dangerous driving or reckless driving if such actions were to cause a collision.
I am probably one of a small number of people on the forum that has been in the same situation as the Police car you refer to in your first post.
And no matter what any other poster says, you were in the wrong in this situation, simply due to the fact that you have blocked the progress of an emergency vehicle.
Learn from it and don't allow it to happen again by keeping a better
eye on your mirrors, if you keep up a good mirror scan then you weon't be in this situation again as you will have an awful lot longer to react and therefore more likely to react correctly.
Don't forget one simple fact, ignorance is no defence in law, the Police are starting to report more and more drivers for offences such as yours, as they are simply becoming far too common.0 -
alanrowell wrote: »You could have helped yourself - you could have pulled into the left hand lane and slowed down to allow the emergency vehicle to pass. This is what they would have expected you to do and what most people would have done so why didn't you do it?
NO WRONG ; The police drivers are trained to a very high standard . Rather than maneuver in their path keep steady and the police driver will make his decision. He had the inside lane empty and so long as you were indicating right turn he would not have expected you to swap back into inside lane. It's daft doings like that that cause them problems.You scullion! You rampallian! You fustilarian! I’ll tickle your catastrophe (Henry IV part 2)0 -
No the emergency vehicle is not supposed to undertake.
The reason I know this is that I have been working for the London Ambulance Service for a decade and this is something we are not allowed to claim an exemption for, as is crossing a solid white line or contravening a no entry sign.
OK. This information is helpful. It is not that I did not see them. I saw them and made a decision to stay in the right lane and allow them to undertake. The Highway Code says "let them pass". This is what I thought I was doing. I see them braking rules (speeding in 30 mph). How would I know that there are rules which they are not supposed to break (undertaking)? This information is not readily available I believe. Had I known about special status of undertaking I would have definitely changed to the left lane.0 -
I already admitted that I made a mistake. I just was not sure what the mistake was. My current understanding is that I did not indicate properly my intentions to let them pass.anotherbaldrick wrote: »NO WRONG ; The police drivers are trained to a very high standard . Rather than maneuver in their path keep steady and the police driver will make his decision. He had the inside lane empty and so long as you were indicating right turn he would not have expected you to swap back into inside lane. It's daft doings like that that cause them problems.
The OP has already stated that they did not indicate!:doh: Blue text on this forum usually signifies hyperlinks, so click on them!..:wall:0
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