Neighbour blocking access to flat.

BehindTheBarricades

It's in my boyfriend's car and, to be fair, that particular stuff she has said she wants to donate to charity. Why this couldn't have been done before moving back from her quart there into her pint pot here, however, is beyond me.

MaggieBaking

BehindTheBarricades wrote: »

The reason behind saying let's leave a few things is that I just don't want to be a complete git to the people who are considerate and only have a few, practical, items. Nice Neighbour keeps gardening equipment down there, for example. Believe it or not, that space is wider than a car so a few spades and shelves are nothing.

:eek: It's that wide?!?!!

Still shocked!!!

Let's face it, the one person you have to worry about is the Clutter Horror so I don't see any harm in mentioning to other people that you're on a vendetta so she will stop and in the meantime you're going to publicly grump, but they're not to think it's aimed at them as they are the reasonable ones. Perhaps then, in a month they can start storing things, and if asked you can always tell The Horror it's yours?

I would probably tell everyone that the empty shelving can stay as they are useful for post and that some gardening items can be left - as gardening is for the good of the whole block and you can't really keep a lawnmower or a bag of compost in your lounge.

All the other scrap needs to be stored in a place more suitable than directly outside your front door.

paddy's_mum

Sorry, but I can't even begin to understand why you are being so docile, so unwilling to say 'this far and no further' to the point where you are even planning to throw a party rather than insist that this utterly selfish, grotesquely inconsiderate mental deficient starts obeying the same rules as everyone else for the good of everyone else!

Stop tiptoeing round her, call in the Fire Officer and the council, and put a stop to this nonsense FORTHWITH-NOW-TODAYwhile you are still alive to do so - you can't do a lot to protect yourselves if you all wake up burnt to death one morning, can you?

I have such a horror of fire that if I knew even approximately where you lived, I'd be calling in the authorities myself! Get it sorted before there is a tragedy ... please.

Leif

BehindTheBarricades wrote: »

Yup. That's happened. Also unpleasant was the time something or other died in the debris and stank the place out for weeks.

The reason behind saying let's leave a few things is that I just don't want to be a complete git to the people who are considerate and only have a few, practical, items. Nice Neighbour keeps gardening equipment down there, for example. Believe it or not, that space is wider than a car so a few spades and shelves are nothing. I also don't want things to escalate into a ridiculous tit-for-tat where people are forced to remove personal possessions such as potted plants from the garden which are a bonus rather than an inconvenience but which, strictly speaking, shouldn't be there either.

I know, I know, it's just asking for trouble...

Your viewpoint is quite reasonable. Everyone having a few items pushed to one side sounds fine I'm sure, but not almost completely blocking the passage way. I guess most other residents would agree.

I suspect a party for everyone would not work as your neighbour has it in her head that her flat is too small therefore she has no choice but to store items in the passage way. And she probably sees you as unreasonable and vindictive. Something or someone has to change her viewpoint. You say you have sent letters explaining your position, so reason does not work.

STOCKWIRE

If I lived there I would dial 999, tell the fire brigade I was trapped. Then see how quickly the authorities can respond to resolve the issue.

mishkanorman

STOCKWIRE,

Thats just daft, a massive waste of resources and could endanger lives because you wish to prove a point !

melancholly

Leif wrote: »

Your viewpoint is quite reasonable. Everyone having a few items pushed to one side sounds fine I'm sure, but not almost completely blocking the passage way. I guess most other residents would agree.

I suspect a party for everyone would not work as your neighbour has it in her head that her flat is too small therefore she has no choice but to store items in the passage way. And she probably sees you as unreasonable and vindictive. Something or someone has to change her viewpoint. You say you have sent letters explaining your position, so reason does not work.

granted this neighbour sees the world in a very odd way, but if all the residents got together and sorted it out, it wouldn't just be about the OP. clearly there's already one other resident who has mentioned it so there may be others who think it but just haven't knocked on the door to tell her.

'reason' may not work, but a united front from other residents might make her realise she just can't behave like this (whether she thinks it's just unfair is a separate issue!)

Leif

melancholly wrote: »

'reason' may not work, but a united front from other residents might make her realise she just can't behave like this (whether she thinks it's just unfair is a separate issue!)

That's a fair point.

STOCKWIRE

mishkanorman wrote: »

STOCKWIRE,

Thats just daft, a massive waste of resources and could endanger lives because you wish to prove a point !

No Lives are in danger Now, not only that of the op but every other resident in that block of flats. Think of the resources that would be called in to play if there Was a fire, not only then but afterwards.

Valli

with all due respect you, OP, giving permission for items to be stored or accepting some items eg gardening equipment is NOT on.

What do the deeds/rules and regs say? I would guess that, if it is an access point and communal area no 'rubbish' or any items should be stored there.

Have you phoned the fire brigade/landlord for advice yet?

@ fire brigade 'I live in a block of flats with shared communal areas. Tenant(s) are storing some items in this area. Can you come and do a fire safety check please as there are a lot of items stored and I'm worried, also there are no smoke detectors in that area and I am worried that I wouldn't be able to get out in an emergency'. NB Look up the local station in the book or google them - no need to overreact.

@ landlord - 'What are the rules re stroring general household items in the shared areas please? I believe a tenant or tenants in this block are storing items in an unsafe way.'

Then THEY can deal with this unreasonable person and YOU are SAFE.

Stockwire - much easier to chuck the items out. Although I can see the advantage of being assisted in this by an engine full of hunky men;)