HMRC request for 2008/09 P60

chrismac1

I could live with these requests - and the lame excuses from the likes of AirlieBird above - if these requests were for the 2010-2011 tax year. After all they have - or should have had - that information for nearly 2 months now, so any reasonably efficient organisation should right now be pursing missing or inaccurate aspects of that tax year.

Not 2009-10. Not 2008-09. Not 2007-08.................zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

poshstock66

poshstock66 wrote: »

I had the same letter today, wanting my p60 for tax yr ending 5 april2010. I only work 10 hours a week and have done for the last 2 years, so don't pay tax!!
Is it worth me bothering??

What do you think?? Anyone.......

patanne

Personally I would send it. It is easier to do that unnecessarily than have them writing again!

SallyG

Are the people answering the phones in the HMRC callcentre trained in taxation?
About codes and P45s :
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201011/cmselect/cmtreasy/writev/hmrc/26.htm"3.7 Looking to the future we will use more frequent or Real Time Information (RTI) to improve the tax system.
3.8 Collecting information from employers when the employee is paid, rather than waiting for it to be submitted in end of year returns, will, in time, allow us to automatically update and correct tax codes throughout the year on a targeted basis, leading to a more accurate service for many individuals. RTI should also reduce the burdens on employers by reducing the requirement for them to submit separate returns. For example, we will be able to update records automatically when a taxpayer changes employer, potentially removing the need for the separate P45 process, and making sure that the individual pays the right tax sooner.
3.9 Real Time Information will also help improve the accuracy of tax credit awards and income related benefits, cutting error and fraud. It is also a critical enabler for Universal Credit and we are working closely with DWP on its development.
3.10 We plan to have the infrastructure in place in 2012. We will then progressively migrate employers to the new system."

Bamber19

I've had some recent dealings with them (It's them that owe me money) and they've done the same, requested information from 3 previous tax years that they already have, bloody irritating and it just delays getting a payment. They also ask for information they already state in the very letter requesting it about dates of employment at certain places and current employer. Annoyingly I requested a rebate for 2008/09 by phone and at the same time mentioned 04/05 when i had a part time job after school, they sent he small 04/05 rebate and said the 08/09 one would follow shortly as it was being dealt with via an automatic process... Still no sign yet.

chrismac1

The very notion that the people who have made such a monumental fukk-up of the current system should be permitted to move on to real-time monthly filing beggars belief, and I know no-one outside HMRC who isn't scared to hell by this. The very idea that they actually think they are even capable of sending net pay to the right bank accounts every month when they can't even key in postcodes correctly is just ridiculous.

They should be focusing resources on sorting out all the various messes they currently have, not making things even more complex. They can't even get their own payroll software right, if any end of year payroll system is likely to fall over it's the HMRC one.

If there is going to be a software change, how about having one source of information for both tax credits and tax returns? How hard can that be compared to the monster PAYE database? Then millions of self-employed people would not have to give HMRC exactly the same information twice, once on the tax return and once to tax credits. And if they want to be really clever, how about doing the same with the Student Loan folk? I have clients who have to give exactly the same information THREE times - once on a tax return, once to tax credits, once to Student Loan - each one stuffed with jobsworths asking for various extra bits of paper other than the formal submissions.

John_Pierpoint

It has been a bad weekend for HMRC:

Inefficiencies 'undermining respect' for tax system

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Channel 4 News - 2 days ago
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Completely off topic: Did anyone else listen to this documentary about our forces "losing" 5 billion of kit (and nearer home sending a pair of standard issue boots (Value 15 quid?) by courier to N.Ireland) ?

Obviously the senior managers of HMRC and MOD must have been drawn from the same training school.

How did the MOD lose track of over 5bn pounds worth of military equipment? Firearms, ammunition, even a plane fuselage are unaccounted for. A tenth of all the specialist and valuable Bowman radios have strayed from their rightful place. The Ministry of Defence insist that doesn't mean they are not being put to good use somewhere - but there's no way of knowing. Antiquated systems mean that accurately recording and despatching items from the hundreds of thousands of lines of stock is a virtually impossible task - nearly half of all deliveries to Afghanistan are late. Adrian Goldberg enters the labyrinthine world of the military stores and distribution networks and asks where some of the 'mislaid' equipment is, how it got there, and the impact on troops.

Nice to know that two years ago when I came across the horrific totals for un-answered mail, I was not just a lone voice in the wilderness.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b012r7tw

cottager

John_Pierpoint wrote: »

Completely off topic: Did anyone else listen to this documentary about our forces "losing" 5 billion of kit (and nearer home sending a pair of standard issue boots (Value 15 quid?) by courier to N.Ireland) ?

Thanks to the link, I have now. Unbelievable. Yet somehow I was completely unsurprised -- only the sheer depth, scale and seriousness of it (and the ancient systems) were surprising. Goodness, if parts of Logistics/stores are still obliged to use 30 yr old computer systems, I should think they're working in DOS! -- not to mention the poor woman running between two sets of computers to input details from one system to another.
The boots cost £700+ to courier to a N/Ireland base for someone who needed them urgently as he was being deployed (Afghanistan I think), yet the next day he was at Brize Norton preparing to fly out, only a matter of miles from the stores. No one joined up the dots.