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Bank rate - What does this affect

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The bank rate has been 0.5% for a long time now.
This seems to have little effect on credit card and mortgage rates.
Savings rates, although low, can be found at 4-5% if you try hard enough.
My question is who benefits from the low bank rate and who would suffer or gain if it went up?
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  • phred wrote: »
    The bank rate has been 0.5% for a long time now.
    This seems to have little effect on credit card and mortgage rates.
    Savings rates, although low, can be found at 4-5% if you try hard enough.
    My question is who benefits from the low bank rate and who would suffer or gain if it went up?

    No effect on mortgage rates, tell that to the people on CAT standard mortgages or people pay 1.5% on their mortgages.

    Savers suffer, so pay off as much of your mortgage as you can!
  • xrjtg
    xrjtg Posts: 600 Forumite
    Savers suffer, so pay off as much of your mortgage as you can!

    This makes no sense for the group of 1.5% mortgage holders that you just mentioned when you can easily get 3% on instant access savings accounts.
  • for all intents and purposes it is a reference rate, it has no bearing on the wholesale cost of funds that banks incur.
  • VT82
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    It is the rate at which banks can lend to the Bank of England with instant access. It therefore gives a floor to what return they expect to get from their surplus liquidity.

    It is used as a reference rate for mortgages, and therefore has a big impact on existing mortgage rates, even if banks just change the margin over this reference for new mortgages as circumstances dictate. Some standard variable rates are also limited to a margin over bank base rate.

    There are also savings products which are either directly linked to bank base rate, or have a guarantee saying that they will never be less than a margin above or below bank base rate. This only makes up a small percentage of the market.

    The expected future path of bank base rate also affects London Interbank Offered Rates (LIBOR) and swap rates, although these are also affected by market views on credit risk. These have a big impact on savings rates, and fixed rates (both mortgages and savings) respectively.
  • Masomnia
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    Large banks that can borrow from the BoE at 0.5% and then lend to you at a much higher rate are the main beneficiaries, I'd say.
    “I could see that, if not actually disgruntled, he was far from being gruntled.” - P.G. Wodehouse
  • Masomnia wrote: »
    Large banks that can borrow from the BoE at 0.5% and then lend to you at a much higher rate are the main beneficiaries, I'd say.

    er, umm....
  • VT82
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    Masomnia wrote: »
    Large banks that can borrow from the BoE at 0.5% and then lend to you at a much higher rate are the main beneficiaries, I'd say.

    Banks can't borrow from the BoE at 0.5%, only lend surplus cash to it.

    Borrowing from the BoE is only available:
    - either in an emergency via the discount window, at extremely penal rates
    - or via open market operations, where banks have to pledge collateral such as mortgage assets to borrow, where they pay market rates.
  • blinko
    blinko Posts: 2,519 Forumite
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    mortgages up, inflation down (we assume) savings up
  • Ark_Welder
    Ark_Welder Posts: 1,878 Forumite
    blinko wrote: »
    savings up

    (we assume) :)
    Living for tomorrow might mean that you survive the day after.
    It is always different this time. The only thing that is the same is the outcome.
    Portfolios are like personalities - one that is balanced is usually preferable.



  • purch
    purch Posts: 9,865 Forumite
    edited 19 July 2011 at 8:26PM
    Banks can't borrow from the BoE at 0.5%, only lend surplus cash to it.

    Have you ever read the Red Book :eek:
    'In nature, there are neither rewards nor punishments - there are Consequences.'
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