Nice people thread part 4 - sugar and spice and all things

lostinrates

GDB2222 wrote: »

Beautiful weather for the time of year.

:beer::beer::beer:

ATM I a torn in ht weather to dance for. Cold not great for us who live in the wreck but this mild now that the rain has started is starting to trash the grass.

PasturesNew

lostinrates wrote: »

http://www.theusedkitchencompany.com/kitchens-for-sale/page:12?prod_sort=pdesc

I found this site recently. A second hand kichen still at £1ook is a bit out f my price range!!! But I thought it a good ide to start looking at real kitchens an printing out pictures of ones I like. We want quite a simple kitchen (not the clive christiansn ones, even though soething about the ott nature appeals) but I like th nes with curved cupboards at the end of runs. y ad says I'll regret that as it will date them.

I think the kitchen I want doesn't exist. I want a big larder and no wall units. I'll accept cupboards under the sink (which shouldn't be under the window), but all remaining bases must be good, deep pan drawers.

I also hate under counter cupboards that go into the corner - as reaching into the corner from the open door is scarey .... and a potential damp trap.

I do want lots of worktop space, big long runs and a worktop "corner" so a microwave can go in the corner, leaving lots of space in front of it to get stuff in/out safely without having to hold it, step back and shuffle to one side to put it down.

My current kitchen has the microwave at one end and 10' away at the other end is the toaster.... and trying to nuke eggs/beans and toast bread in the mornings means walking back/forth between the two several times. And the only "spare/available" worktop is actually the size of a glass chopping block (which I had to remove as it was in the way, I hate chopping blocks).

The kettle/microwave/toaster should all have space/sockets close to each other so you can use all those without moving when you make breakfast. Breakfast being: beans and scrambled eggs on toast and a coffee.

PasturesNew

GDB2222 wrote: »

Beautiful weather for the time of year.

It's a bit nippy/breezy here today, but the sea is a gorgeous inky blue colour and the waves are making massive white splashes.

lostinrates

PasturesNew wrote: »

I think the kitchen I want doesn't exist. I want a big larder and no wall units. I'll accept cupboards under the sink (which shouldn't be under the window), but all remaining bases must be good, deep pan drawers.

I really only have to places for my sink, on the island or under the window, what do you think I should choose?

I also hate under counter cupboards that go into the corner - as reaching into the corner from the open door is scarey .... and a potential damp trap.

I agree with you on corner cupboards totaly

I do want lots of worktop space, big long runs and a worktop "corner" so a microwave can go in the corner, leaving lots of space in front of it to get stuff in/out safely without having to hold it, step back and shuffle to one side to put it down.

I think corner worktops are the little brother of corner cupboards

My current kitchen has the microwave at one end and 10' away at the other end is the toaster.... and trying to nuke eggs/beans and toast bread in the mornings means walking back/forth between the two several times. And the only "spare/available" worktop is actually the size of a glass chopping block (which I had to remove as it was in the way, I hate chopping blocks).

The kettle/microwave/toaster should all have space/sockets close to each other so you can use all those without moving when you make breakfast. Breakfast being: beans and scrambled eggs on toast and a coffee.

I have a plan I was really anti wall cuboards too, but now I want uits like dressers, with sockets in the back, so the things that plug in are both hidden and easy to use instantly.

LydiaJ

PasturesNew wrote: »

I think the kitchen I want doesn't exist...

For enough money, you can have it however you want it. So now we need to look out for a house for you that you can afford with enough money left over for a bespoke kitchen....

I like my kitchen in this house. The only thing I'd change is having somewhere to put a bin. There's nowhere. I think I'm going to have to have the shelf taken out of one side of the cupboard under the sink and put in one of those ones that opens its lid when you open the cupboard door. It's a shame because I've got a pedal bin of a nice big size suitable for a house with kids, but there's just nowhere for it to go. It's in the hall at the moment, in the spot where the laminate has a hole where the old boiler used to be, but once that's been patched I'm going to bring the little freezer in out of the conservatory and put that there.

Big news house-wise this week is that a different builder will be coming to quote in a week's time - for finishing off all the stuff I've now given up getting the original one to complete. This is a guy who did some electrics for me a while back - and turned up exactly when he said he would, and didn't leave until it was finished.

PasturesNew

lostinrates wrote: »

I really only have to places for my sink, on the island or under the window, what do you think I should choose?

That's a no brainer, under the window.

Islands should always be 100% free of any appliances.... meaning they're available for hobbies, study, finances, reading the big papers, having coffee with people, eating snacks at, opening pizza boxes, preparing big meals and rolling pastry/kneading bread and turning into a buffet table area for big meal times like a Xmas Dinner.

lostinrates wrote: »

I agree with you on corner cupboards totaly

It's like workmen don't think the hidden corners matter... but they do and it's offputting to put cooking items near the back of those cupboards.

lostinrates wrote: »

I think corner worktops are the little brother of corner cupboards

lostinrates wrote: »

I have a plan I was really anti wall cuboards too, but now I want uits like dressers, with sockets in the back, so the things that plug in are both hidden and easy to use instantly.

I've often thought of that. you need doors that open upwards and disappear, like curved wooden bread bins do. Or posh ones with advanced hinges that enable doors to be opened then shoved back to disappear.

I actually had a "hidden away cupboard" space planned for a previous kitchen, except I never got round to changing the kitchen at all as I couldn't afford nice modifications, just essential repairs.

lostinrates

LydiaJ wrote: »

For enough money, you can have it however you want it. So now we need to look out for a house for you that you can afford with enough money left over for a bespoke kitchen....

exactly. My hope is that my thinking as uch as I can about design so as to get it right I can get a besoke kitchen from the team doing everything else in the house...they are very skilled.

I think PN is right, much as I hate the look of them pot drawers are more practical than cupboards for base units. I can't get near the back of my base units and have to get dh to get stuf ut of them or get down on my hands and knees.:(

lostinrates

PasturesNew wrote: »

Islands should always be 100% free of any appliances.... meaning they're available for hobbies, study, finances, reading the big papers, having coffee with people, eating snacks at, opening pizza boxes, preparing big meals and rolling pastry/kneading bread and turning into a buffet table area for big meal times like a Xmas Dinner.
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suppose there is a large tble for these purposes in the same room?

(and room on the island for a sing and rollig pastry.) I keep going back over this. If my rolling and chopping space was under the window I think I'd enjoy the vie more than if it was where my sink is. But if I put the sink under the window ALL my work surface coud be the island, not the U shape around it. I can't decide.

PasturesNew

LydiaJ wrote: »

For enough money, you can have it however you want it. So now we need to look out for a house for you that you can afford with enough money left over for a bespoke kitchen....

Ah ... I am not from bespoke kitchen stock. I'll put up with what I get as I'd rather have the money in the bank really. I wouldn't be comfortable 'wasting' good money on stuff that wasn't essential.

LydiaJ wrote: »

Big news house-wise this week is that a different builder will be coming to quote in a week's time - for finishing off all the stuff I've now given up getting the original one to complete. This is a guy who did some electrics for me a while back - and turned up exactly when he said he would, and didn't leave until it was finished.

Builders are a right shower on the whole aren't they.

I don't know if anybody's been watching the Renovation Game, but there's a bloke on there called Huntley who is an absolute disaster and should be sacked. He's juvenile, loud, annoying, pointless and f***s things up in every programme. The bloke is a complete liability and I'd have had his 4rse off the programme after the first programme (although he's annoying enough for him to have not been picked by me in the first place).

PasturesNew

lostinrates wrote: »

suppose there is a large tble for these purposes in the same room?

Dunno ... never thought about kitchens big enough for a table. I am not entirely sure I would ever want an island.... I do want a breakfast bar area, that'd be kept clear for all the reasons I gave above.

lostinrates wrote: »

If my rolling and chopping space was under the window I think I'd enjoy the vie more than if it was where my sink is. But if I put the sink under the window ALL my work surface coud be the island, not the U shape around it. I can't decide.

That's what I never understand about sinks being under windows. When you're at the sink you're washing up and so looking in the sink/bowl and making sure you don't catch the plates/etc on the taps and break them. When you're preparing food etc you've time to look out of the window.

Can you have a corner sink? I've seen those. Drainer either side, sink in the middle. That'd also work well with the "nasty corner" issue as under the sink's another scarey place, so they might as well both be together.

http://www.woodweb.com/knowledge_base_images/zp/designing_a_corner_sink_cabinet_3.jpg