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Entitlement to compassionate leave

My partners Grandma has just been taken to hospital (been ill for a while but not sure whats wrong yet). She lives in wales and my partner and family in North Yorkshire.

He works at the same place as his father and often has problems with holiday as they are very difficult about time off regardless of the reason or holiday leave left to take.

It looks like his father is going to Wales tonight depending on the news. Should 'the worst' happen he's been told he would not be allowed to attend the funeral because his grandma is not 'immediate family'.

He did attend his grandad's funeral last year but this was at a fight and they refused more than one day off (regardless of the 7 hours each way it took them to get there).

After my moan! my question is, what are the laws around compassionate leave? Is he legally entitled to have time of (and how would immediate family be classified).

His employers and bosses are generally difficult with every situation as I think they seem to like weilding their power!
I get what i want. That isn't because i'm a brat or spoilt. It's because i'm determined, i work hard for it and i achieve my goals!
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  • KiKi
    KiKi Posts: 5,381 Forumite
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    There's no legal entitlement to compassionate leave, I'm afraid. Sorry the boss isn't very helpful in this regard.

    Many organisations have a compassionate leave policy which does only extend to parents, children and siblings, so the company isn't alone. He can apply for an AL day, though.

    KiKi
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  • Meepster
    Meepster Posts: 5,955 Forumite
    As KiKi says, unfortunately there is no legal right to compassionate leave, unless it is for a dependent :(
    If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, we have at least to consider the possibility that we have a small aquatic bird of the family anatidae on our hands

  • misssarahleigh
    misssarahleigh Posts: 2,852 Forumite
    Good job i don't work their then.

    My god, the results of telling me I was not allowed to attend my Gnradma's funeral wouldn't be worth thinking about!!!

    I would go and let them disiplin/fire me for it tbh. I don't think I could live with the guilt of not saying goodbye and I certainly wouldn't be very productive at work!

    Thanks for the help
    I get what i want. That isn't because i'm a brat or spoilt. It's because i'm determined, i work hard for it and i achieve my goals!
  • ohreally
    ohreally Posts: 7,525 Forumite
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    If this were me, I'd submit a written request for two days compassionate leave on the grounds of loss of a close relative.

    If this were denied I'd submit a second request to take two days unpaid leave on compassionate grounds - I'd make damn sure though they were aware they were not being compassionate and I'd return the sentiment at the first available oppertunity.
    Don’t be a can’t, be a can.
  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    Good job i don't work their then.

    My god, the results of telling me I was not allowed to attend my Gnradma's funeral wouldn't be worth thinking about!!!

    I would go and let them disiplin/fire me for it tbh. I don't think I could live with the guilt of not saying goodbye and I certainly wouldn't be very productive at work!

    Thanks for the help

    I would suspect that it all depends on whether you are expecting to ba paid for the time off or not.
  • misssarahleigh
    misssarahleigh Posts: 2,852 Forumite
    ILW wrote: »
    I would suspect that it all depends on whether you are expecting to ba paid for the time off or not.

    Nope. He would be quite happy to use his holidays to cover the time, but work will not allow father and son (even though they specify in work it's to be kept to a professional level) off at the same time.

    It's due to their bad management that nobody else can really cover either roles and although they 'could' do it they don't because...... well, i don't actualy no why they make it difficult.
    I get what i want. That isn't because i'm a brat or spoilt. It's because i'm determined, i work hard for it and i achieve my goals!
  • LadyMissA
    LadyMissA Posts: 3,263 Forumite
    ohreally wrote: »
    If this were me, I'd submit a written request for two days compassionate leave on the grounds of loss of a close relative.

    If this were denied I'd submit a second request to take two days unpaid leave on compassionate grounds - I'd make damn sure though they were aware they were not being compassionate and I'd return the sentiment at the first available oppertunity.

    no one has died though, have they?
  • misssarahleigh
    misssarahleigh Posts: 2,852 Forumite
    LadyMissA wrote: »
    no one has died though, have they?

    Although I cringe when I say this but, 'not yet' :eek:

    I just wanted a bit of info so if something bad did come about, i would be able to give him some advice about what to do. I won't mentioned it unless something happens but just woundered where he stood so i could put his mind at ease if her was bothered (based on his previous experience with his grandads funeral)
    I get what i want. That isn't because i'm a brat or spoilt. It's because i'm determined, i work hard for it and i achieve my goals!
  • Eton_Rifle
    Eton_Rifle Posts: 372 Forumite
    Is it possible to have a funeral at the weekend in your area?
  • claire16c
    claire16c Posts: 7,074 Forumite
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    If I worked for someone as horrible as that, and knew they were going to say no, even i said Id use holiday or unpaid leave,I guess the only option left would be Id call in sick.

    Whem my grandad died, I had 4 days off work and another 2 the following week to go to the funeral and my boss didn't mind. I guess she knew when I did come back to work, Id at least be productive, and I was a hard worker and me being off, was no different than if Id gone on holiday, I just caught up with stuff when I got back.

    Family is more important than bosses.
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