Councillors make move to scrap second home council tax discount

Graham_Devon

PasturesNew wrote: »

There's a lot of them. They're "holiday occupancy only", so services/access vary from 8-12 months of the year, but you are not allowed to live there. You usually have to provide evidence of a proper home elsewhere. You can't get post delivered to most of them.

I've nothing against lots and lots of holiday homes of the normal sort. It's the 2nd home/holiday home type where they've taken over 'normal residential houses'. Most of which are empty most of the time. And they use that "we bring money into the area" line, which is entirely fictional in most cases. How can somebody using a place a few weekends, or even a month, a year bring money in that a full-time resident doesn't?

Yup, sounds a bit like a caravan situation. You can live there for a few months, but not all year round.

This guy said he was there in the summer only, as no means of heating in the winter. Theres no water as in the winter it would all freeze up.

Certainly can't see how he's expected to pay council tax. But woud the beeb really report it if he didn't have to!?

lostinrates

wotsthat wrote: »

I'm not suggesting the county is filled with restaurants that local people can't afford (and I think you know that). Upmarket could mean better access and parking at beaches, improved public toilets or discouraging the yob culture that is Newquay. Reasonably small things that would benefit everyone.
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I was thinking about this today as I drove through a few places not in Cornwall where locals have been priced out, not just be second home owners, but also ''Incomers'' and retiring people.

If the ''posh'' businesses that loicals can't afford to eat at do better than the local ones, then there is sufficient demand for them...Fifteen doesn't struggle does it? Or the Stein ones?

PasturesNew

lostinrates wrote: »

...Fifteen doesn't struggle does it?

Dunno, send me £90 and I'll book a table and report back.

Before Fifteen there was a lovely old fashioned beach shop, selling cheese sandwiches and ice creams..... he's robbed the beach of the traditional beach cafe!!

I've never been to Fifteen, nor Steins - and I never expect to.

You used to be able to go into a pub and get some pub grub easily, now you have to really know where you're going or you'll end up in one of the gastro pubs, where a simple "spot of lunch" is no longer a £4.95 burger and chips, but £14.95 for an organic, locally produced, beef steak in artisan bread with hand cut and pan fried pommes.

PasturesNew

Oh ... make that £102. http://www.fifteencornwall.co.uk/passionofitaly.htm

PasturesNew

Graham_Devon wrote: »

But woud the beeb really report it if he didn't have to!?

Probably. If you know where it was, we could dig around a bit. Bet you didn't take notes!

lostinrates

PasturesNew wrote: »

Dunno, send me £90 and I'll book a table and report back.

Before Fifteen there was a lovely old fashioned beach shop, selling cheese sandwiches and ice creams..... he's robbed the beach of the traditional beach cafe!!

I've never been to Fifteen, nor Steins - and I never expect to.

You used to be able to go into a pub and get some pub grub easily, now you have to really know where you're going or you'll end up in one of the gastro pubs, where a simple "spot of lunch" is no longer a £4.95 burger and chips, but £14.95 for an organic, locally produced, beef steak in artisan bread with hand cut and pan fried pommes.

I think you're missing my point PN. I'm not saying fifteen etc are for you. I';m saying THEY are in business when the traditional beach cafe wasn't. If there were a market for the traditional cafe the owner might have stayed in business! So they are for what ever the paying market is.


If people are charging £14.95 for lunch they have a market. If they didn't they wouldn't be there. There are restuarants and gastro pubs all over the country that charge like that and thata lot of people can't don't want to go to.

In my new area three of the pubs are the expensive ones (though the best actually does a fixed price no choice lunch menu for £12 I think, no a la carte at lunch time though) and only one is the cheaper sort (Though thats a lot more than £4.95 too!). here is a market for both, so ATM both sorts are in business.

The £14.95 lunch places are also employing, and earning themselves.