ngry, confused and very upset over a disabled space parking ticket

jakes-mum

Richie-from-the-Boro wrote: »

I would not have paid before appeal, only after I'd lost the appeal. Once the money is in the monolithic council system it involves multitudes of different departments and is more difficult to get a discretionary decision made.

If you read the URL I posted it clearly states the legalities of how you were caught :

- both the Blue Badge and Clock should be displayed at all times
- no charge for a maximum of 3 hours
- short stay car park

I'm sure you will get a ' rocket ' and your refund, this however may / will change after January 2012

Ah sorry I didnt explain myself very well, I havent paid the ticket yet, I meant that the decision about whether I have to pay them lies in the hands of some blke at the council

vax2002

I would scan everything and now head over to http://forums.pepipoo.com
I think the offence code may not be correct.
You will need to appeal to the adjudicator as the council wont let go of the money right or wrong.

Richie-from-the-Boro

vax2002 wrote: »

Did you say you have paid ?
If so that is the end of the matter.

Read #22 again my friend

vax2002

Richie-from-the-Boro wrote: »

I would not have paid before appeal, only after I'd lost the appeal. Once the money is in the monolithic council system it involves multitudes of different departments and is more difficult to get a discretionary decision made.

If you read the URL I posted it clearly states the legalities of how you were caught :

- both the Blue Badge and Clock should be displayed at all times
- no charge for a maximum of 3 hours
- short stay car park

I'm sure you will get a ' rocket ' and your refund, this however may / will change after January 2012

If this information is not on the sign at the car park then what it says on the internet is not of any legal standing.

Richie-from-the-Boro

vax2002 wrote: »

If this information is not on the sign at the car park then what it says on the internet is not of any legal standing.

I bring to the attention of the group the fact that vax, has edited his original #23 posted at 11:48 to say something completely different at 11:42. The evidence is in #24.

- your 11:48 post said to the O/P

""" Did you say you have paid ? If so that is the end of the matter """

and now

- your 11:48 post says to the O/P

""" I would scan everything and now head over to http://forums.pepipoo.com I think the offence code may not be correct. You will need to appeal to the adjudicator as the council wont let go of the money right or wrong.

jetta_wales

Richie-from-the-Boro wrote: »

I bring to the attention of the group the fact that vax, has edited his original #23 posted at 11:48 to say something completely different at 11:42. The evidence is in #24.

- your 11:48 post said to the O/P

""" Did you say you have paid ? If so that is the end of the matter """

and now

- your 11:48 post says to the O/P

""" I would scan everything and now head over to http://forums.pepipoo.com I think the offence code may not be correct. You will need to appeal to the adjudicator as the council wont let go of the money right or wrong.

So?........

Richie-from-the-Boro

vax2002 wrote: »

If this information is not on the sign at the car park then what it says on the internet is not of any legal standing.

Ignorance is no defence in law. The BB rules are clear, because of local / regional variations in England Scotland & Wales its up to the individual user to understand the rules as they are applied in each area and indeed each on / off road parking situation. Case law also supports this.

Can I make the assumption you are a non BB user ?

datostar

I think the clock has to be displayed along with the blue badge at all times unless signs at the parking place say otherwise (not the other way round). I have a friend with a blue badge who I take shopping etc. in my car. I always ensure that he sets the clock and properly displays it before we leave the car. After all, the penalties wouldn't be sent to him. They go to the registered owner of the vehicle.

Richie-from-the-Boro

Hiya datostar, and others, the BBBook says :

BB Rights & Responsibilities book issued to all BB holders page 11 says :

""" When you need to use a parking clock

When you park on yellow lines or in other places where there is a time restriction, you need to display the blue parking clock to show your time of arrival. The clock should be sent to you together with the Blue Badge.
If not, you can get a clock from the same authority that issued the badge.

If you need to use a parking clock, you must display it on the vehicle’s dashboard or facia panel, so that the time can be seen clearly through the front windscreen. The clock should be set to show the quarter hour period during which you arrived. If there is no dashboard or facia panel in your vehicle, you must still display the clock in a place where it can be clearly read from outside the vehicle """

The BBBook goes on in various places to warn / instruct the user to """ you should check the rules for that area."""

On page 19 it says """ badge holders may park for as long as they wish unless signs say otherwise. Please check with signs before parking. If there is a time limit please display the blue parking clock which should be set to show the quarter hour period during which you arrived. """ and the O/P was using this time limited parking.

Mupette

oh i am one for forgetting. ususally parking in a disabled bay and not displaying my badge.

MS you gotta love it, makes you forget all sorts.

Appeal, explain your illness makes you forget if indeed it does.

They can check with your bb that you are the rightful owner, best of luck and don't get stressed about it.. see what they have to say