MAM anti colic starter set

sarahblaneuk

I think this is a fab deal, we paid £45 for these bottles when I had my son 6 months ago and they have been brilliant and far better than the Dr Drown bottles I used for my twin daughters. I tried breastfeeding with all my children but had to resort to bottle both times and don't feel the least bit guilty about it. With the twins moving to the bottle helped me avoid PND as I was so sleep deprived and couldn't get a break as I was constantly feeding one baby or the other, the bottle gave me the opportunity to allow others to help me out through the day and night (both girls suffered terrible reflux and the bottle helped ease the symptoms enormously). With my youngest son I was determined to try breast feeding again but due to personal and my sons many health issues it wasn't possible. I just want to say that every baby is different as is every mummy and whatever choice you make it should be your and yours alone and you shouldn't be made to feel guilty about it.

I just want to add a TY to the OP and that i'll be heading to TKmaxx tomorrow to try and pick up a spare set of bottles.

Stacyluvya

We get most of our stuff from Boots & they regularly have promotions on ALL baby items, apart from formula milk up to 6 months. We got our next stage teats when they were on 3 for 2.

My friend has a little one who's suffering really bad with colic at the moment & had been looking at this pack so I'll tell her to pop in.

Thank you x

elm.

I think as mums we do the best we can with what we have at the time, I'm not saying anyone is wrong to do anything (except the WHO code breakers). I felt guilty over countless things as a new mum including feeding.

The 'lecture' bit (please look away now if you want to)

Re. formula - the second choice where breastfeeding fails would be donor breastmilk not formula
Re. formula in the third world - formula is actually responsible for countless infant deaths, formula is expensive - mothers are given free samples which run out when their milk supply has dried up and then can't afford it, the conditions for preparing formula aren't ideal so feeds are easily contaminated during preparation, there's often an absence of a clean water supply which again leads to the feed being contaminated leading to disease and stomach problems like diarrhoea. This is why I boycott Nestle, they push their formula on to women living in poverty and their advertising does not comply with the WHO code (saying things like formula 'protects', and that it's 'gold standard').

pleasedelete

Donor breast milk- get real!!!!

How do you think I would get donor breast milk for my 12lb newborn baby living in a remote rural community. I have never met anyone who was offered donor breast milk.

I have lived in Asia. I have seen a baby dead in my arms from malnutrition. I have had mothers beg me to take their children so they didn't die. I went out and bought them formula milk and kept on giving it until they were weaned.

Maybe you get donor milk in trendy Islington! In the real world mums and health professionals have better things to do than try and source donor breast milk for perfectly healthy babies who will be absolutely fine on formula.

HelenHarry

Completely agree with you elm. There are 4 ways to feed a baby:

1) Breastmilk directly from the mother
2) Breastmilk expressed by the mother
3) Breastmilk expressed by woman other than mother
4) Artificial (formula) milk

Guilt is such a strange emotion to feel when in the vast majority of cases women stop breastfeeding because of a lack of support. If it was any other issue anger would be the primary emotion, but guilt always seems to rear it's ugly head here. Mothers do the best that they can do with the knowledge and resources they have at the time. If some of those resources are cheap / easily available breastmilk substitutes then surely it contributes to the decision making process?

elm. wrote: »

I think as mums we do the best we can with what we have at the time, I'm not saying anyone is wrong to do anything (except the WHO code breakers). I felt guilty over countless things as a new mum including feeding.

The 'lecture' bit (please look away now if you want to)

Re. formula - the second choice where breastfeeding fails would be donor breastmilk not formula
Re. formula in the third world - formula is actually responsible for countless infant deaths, formula is expensive - mothers are given free samples which run out when their milk supply has dried up and then can't afford it, the conditions for preparing formula aren't ideal so feeds are easily contaminated during preparation, there's often an absence of a clean water supply which again leads to the feed being contaminated leading to disease and stomach problems like diarrhoea. This is why I boycott Nestle, they push their formula on to women living in poverty and their advertising does not comply with the WHO code (saying things like formula 'protects', and that it's 'gold standard').

HelenHarry

I'm guessing you're not aware of Human Milk for Human Babies then?

pleasedelete wrote: »

Donor breast milk- get real!!!!

How do you think I would get donor breast milk for my 12lb newborn baby living in a remote rural community. I have never met anyone who was offered donor breast milk.

I have lived in Asia. I have seen a baby dead in my arms from malnutrition. I have had mothers beg me to take their children so they didn't die. I went out and bought them formula milk and kept on giving it until they were weaned.

Maybe you get donor milk in trendy Islington! In the real world mums and health professionals have better things to do than try and source donor breast milk for perfectly healthy babies who will be absolutely fine on formula.

elm.

pleasedelete wrote: »

Donor breast milk- get real!!!!

How do you think I would get donor breast milk for my 12lb newborn baby living in a remote rural community. I have never met anyone who was offered donor breast milk.

I have lived in Asia. I have seen a baby dead in my arms from malnutrition. I have had mothers beg me to take their children so they didn't die. I went out and bought them formula milk and kept on giving it until they were weaned.

Maybe you get donor milk in trendy Islington! In the real world mums and health professionals have better things to do than try and source donor breast milk for perfectly healthy babies who will be absolutely fine on formula.

It sounds like you did some very important work out there and saved lives. I'm surprised you don't know about the problems that formula causes.

Surely donor breastmilk (i.e. a wet nurse) is far easier to get find in a rural community than formula is? Especially if you're living in poverty.

"The World Health Organisation estimates that 1.5 million infants die around the world every year because they are not breastfed. This figure has been stated in this and other forms by WHO and UNICEF many times over the years."

Have a read of this if you're interested in the facts -


http://www.babymilkaction.org/resources/yqsanswered/yqanestle.html#13aug01

robstersgirl

elm. wrote: »

Surely this is against the WHO code? It undermines breastfeeding especially containing a soother so shouldn't be reduced or on any kind of promotion?

(nothing against you OP - I'm sure there are many who want to know about it).

Irony- a poster advocating breastfeeding with a young baby drinking a bottle in her avatar :rotfl:
I've breastfed my 4 babies, it is best but doesn't work for everyone, I was persistant (and lazy!! bottles are so much hard work) my youngest is 3 and although no longer breastfeeding she has never had an oz of formula, which I'm very proud of, but if it hadn't worked out formula is an option, what's sad is that many women now don't even try, when it really is easy, we wouldn't be here if it weren't.
I would always suggest trying it any mummy milk is good, and those bottles ^ can always be filled with expressed milk

elm.

robstersgirl wrote: »

Irony- a poster advocating breastfeeding with a young baby drinking a bottle in her avatar :rotfl:
I've breastfed my 4 babies, it is best but doesn't work for everyone, I was persistant (and lazy!! bottles are so much hard work) my youngest is 3 and although no longer breastfeeding she has never had an oz of formula, which I'm very proud of, but if it hadn't worked out formula is an option, what's sad is that many women now don't even try, when it really is easy, we wouldn't be here if it weren't.
I would always suggest trying it any mummy milk is good, and those bottles ^ can always be filled with expressed milk

Ohhh, thank you for bringing the avatar up - would you like to know the story behind the photo?

If so see here - http://www.jemjabella.co.uk/2010/jemjabella-is-a-nestle-free-zone/

I'll have a look for the original...

(good for you with the feeding and being proud btw, I found breastfeeding really hard in the early days and at many other times since!!! because we don't see breastfeeding regularly we don't see how to do it and so it can be difficult, especially without the right support around).

eta. see also http://www.unsystem.org/scn/archives/scnnewsextractsmay91/index.htm

robstersgirl

elm. wrote: »

Ohhh, thank you for bringing the avatar up - would you like to know the story behind the photo?

If so see here - http://www.jemjabella.co.uk/2010/jemjabella-is-a-nestle-free-zone/

I'll have a look for the original...

(good for you with the feeding and being proud btw, I found breastfeeding really hard in the early days and at many other times since!!! because we don't see breastfeeding regularly we don't see how to do it and so it can be difficult, especially without the right support around).

I apologise, that image is heartbreaking now i have read the story and well done you for persevering through the harder times, and for giving your LO a great start in life